One thing about reliability: I've not had xournal crash on me a lot. I think there may be once. However, the lack of a recovery feature is concerning. If there is recovery, crashes are less problematic.
Cheers, Shuhao On 11/18/2013 09:52 AM, Wilson Brenna wrote: > I'll add that I didn't mention reliability and that I completely agree - > I've never had a crash with Denis' Xournal, it's extremely stable. The > current state of Xournalpp is that crashes are less and less common but > still occur. When I started looking at the code, there were a few bugs in > copy/paste and undo that caused frequent crashing, but that has since been > fixed. I still get crashes from time to time, which I've noted in the > Issues section on the Github page. So, I second the statement about xournal > having a warranty of reliability. > > I also think Shuhao makes a good point about user confusion. Certainly when > I selected a project to use and to work on, I had a tough time seeing the > best path. So this is probably a good time to talk about where to go from > now! I think that with the original idea of Xournalpp being the future of > Xournal, the name was appropriate, but now that it's not entirely clear > what is happening, it's unfortunate but that's kind of the way it is. After > this discussion I'll definitely add some historical notes on the Github > page for Xournalpp so that the state of the projects is more clear. > > Since I mostly see new developments appearing on Github, my personal > recommendation would be to move Xournal development to Github and to use > Daniel's recommendations for official project branches (stable, > experimental, feature patches). That would at least consolidate development > on that project. As far as Xournalpp I think the projects should remain > separate but I'm open to suggestions. As for what I'll do, my plan was to > modify Xournalpp to have the features I wanted, and that's been mostly > accomplished now, so my in the next few months I plan to push out some > *.deb binaries and focus on polishing things up to the point where it's > easy for anyone to try it out. > > One thing I'd really like to hear is Daniel's opinion on GTK3 and Windows > porting of Xournalpp. I'd certainly trust your expertise and if you say it > can be done, it's something I'd like to look at as well. > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Shuhao Wu <shu...@shuhaowu.com> wrote: >> >>> So yeah that's what I figured as well. It seems like everyone has their >>> own fork. >>> >>> While that seems to be beauty of opensource, this is just confusing and >>> bad for the end users. >>> >>> There are a lot of improvements that could be made to xournal, a lot of >>> which are already implemented. We should really get the authors to just >>> merge everything into a mainline repository. This will allow all users >>> to benefit. Developers who are interested will also have less of a hard >>> time trying to figure out what to contribute to. >>> >>> I would love to contribute some stuff into xournal[1], but with this >>> state I'm not sure which one is an non-outdated version, especially >>> since I see a lot of great features (esp the capstone student projects) >>> in forks. >>> >>> [1]: such as drawing horizontally and vertically aligned lines, drawing >>> rectangles and other shapes without recognition, and having lines draw >>> with the width determined by the pen pressure. >>> >>> As for xournal++... if it is a total rewrite I don't think it is >>> appropriate to use almost the same name. That just seems confusing (as >>> it did for me). >>> >>> Just my two cent. >>> >>> Shuhao >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native Apps > OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access > Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. > Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xournal-devel mailing list > Xournal-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xournal-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Xournal-devel mailing list Xournal-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xournal-devel
