Seemingly people here lack the art of prioritizing. If you carry on debating this issue and neglecting the challenges that society faces; i.e.lack of basic services, unemployment and the derailing of the Black economic employment to mention a few. As organizations that advocate for the emancipation of the youth of this country the YCL & ANCYL should really be more vocal on activities that seek to champion the interests of the young people of this country.If the leaders of these organizations enjoy granting more attention to the logistics of the ANC they should have lobbied to be included in the NEC of the ANC. Lets try to be subjective when deliberating as this will elevate our movement. If we base everything on lies we are definitely not making a positive investment into this movement. Seeing people engaging in this manner is a symbol that the future of this country is not bright at all.
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008/10/13 11:50 AM >>> the "comrade" is lamenting on comrades Malema and Manamela having being, according to him failures academically.the "comrade" claim to have been the member of the ANC for 18 years without understanding the ANC - meaning the comrades has been perpetually failing on the issue of understanding ANC and its policies for the past 18 years.he is even mentioning that the elections next year means voting in Malema and Buti.the comrade does not understand the difference between conferences and General elections.Julius,Buti and Fikile were all elected at the respective conferences and not in the 2004 General elections.the "comrade" is exposing himself that the ANC according to him not longer operates as a mass based movement meaning the "comrade" has failed to mobilise people in his community and prefed to be an armchair politician with a nice english. the "comrade" must not worry because his wife,kids,relatives and friends will vote on his behalf and like a parasite he will benefit in the service delivery of the ANC for the next five years. mandla matsane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [email protected] 2008/10/13 09:42 AM Please respond to yclsa-eom-forum To: <[email protected]>, corlie bosman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Why I will not vote 4 the ANC under J.Z it is not a problem if some people don't want to vote for the ANC, but we shall continously be encouraging people to vote and to vote for the ANC in particular. i think forum has an opportunity to educate people, sorry comrades like, who said if you are not educated you can lead people? what grade or masters do you need to lead people, probably you can explain that to us? what complex issues are you talking about? since the 1994 political breakthrough there has been an emerging class of that has benefited from BEE programs, that is able to buy posrch cars. i think you should know better, no one has his views but everyone represents the views and policies of the organisation. you have a wonderful day and prepare yourself to vote for the ANC next year. Mandla Matsane ________________________________ > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Why I will not vote 4 the ANC under J.Z > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:57:24 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > > > This are comrade how don't understand WHY THE ANC was formed. Let go and mobilize our people to vote for ANC and forget about people who want to divide the organisation > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dominic Tweedie > Sent: 11 October 2008 11:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Why I will not vote 4 the ANC under J.Z > > > > Are such letters real? > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sgidi Mosala > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Why I will not vote 4 the ANC under J.Z > > > > > > Revolutionary Greetings Macom! > > > > I never thought I will be the one writing this message, disgruntled as I am. I have always maintained that I joined the ANC because of its tradition and principles. I didn't join the ANC to drive porsh cars or stay in affluent suburbs of our country. I always maintained that to acquire all these luxury i must work hard academically to secure a decent job to earn a better salary. > > > > I had these ambition of witnessing during fredom in my life time the genuine creation of a better life for all our people especially the poorest of the poor. But I am still to see that except in certain cases things are worse than during apartheid. > > > > How do you expect me to renew the manadate of the ANC in next year election whilst their have dismally failed to do basic things. How do you expect me to vote for the ANC next year, because ANC victory means that stupid like Julias Malema and Buti Manamela who failed to progress academically will be chauver driven in porsch cars. > > > > How do explain that our stuggle for the emancipation of black people has been reduced to cultism where evrything is about Jacob Zuma becoming a president despite the controversy hanging around him. > > > > Here are the following reasons why I wont vote: > > > > 1. The ANC that I joined 18yrs ago, has been donated to the whimps of greeed, corruption endorses and people who have scant regard to the constitution. The ANC of today led by Mantashe and Malemas is a direct opposite of Joe Slovo and Oliver Tambo fought hard during difficult times to build. > > > > 2. I will not vote because the ANC has dismally failed to live up to its character as a mass based party. The only time the ANC remember our people is during elections. They will be seen visiting every household conducting door to door again lying to our people about how they will effect changes if they are voted in. > > > > 3. How do I endorse the stupid and morons like Bhuti Manamela, Julias Malema, Fikile Mbalula and Nyami Booi to be my leaders. Their main focus is to amasse wealth in substituting their failures academically. They have used the ANC as a step ladder to wealthy life styles. How do explain the wealth that Julias posses. How do you explain why Mbalula was transported with a charter flight from his initiation school. > > > > 4. Do you think I can vote for ANC, because if it wins Jacob Zuma is going to be its President. Imagine J.Zuma as a President, is a cause to worry about. He does not have views he condones stupid wrong things done by Malema under his defense. Zuma is uneducated and will not be able to handle complex issues of governance especially international relation and the volatile market economy. 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