Comrade Please do not mislead us. The leadership we have now was not elected on the basis of factionalism. It pains me to see you swallowing wholesale untruths possibly gleaned from the most disappointing media institutions since apartheid.
If you were here in 1996, you will remember that the Alliance suffered a serious setback in the form of the introduction of GEAR which we, on the left, judged correctly as a neo-liberal programme aimed at reducing the role of the state in the economy and in development. It consequently led us to the backlogs with which we live today namely: unequal education; poverty skewed along race and gender lines; non-investment in rural and agrarian development which has a spin-off of migration from the rural areas to the cities especially GP and cape Town which presents undue pressure on the GP and CT infrastructure and instability as witnessed in the recent xenophopic attacks; development and nurturing of a kleptocracy in the SA state if things like the former Minister of Defence (Mosiuoa Lekota)getting a R100 million tender from his own Ministry is anything to go by; poor investment in public transport in favour of the Gautrain project where once again the kleptocracy can benefit by using state funds to line their pockets by building white elephants; poor investment in energy infrastructure except for the Pebble Bed Modular Reactor where once again another white elephant can be built to line the pockets of that kleptocracy and to do untold damage to our environment; over-reliance on the private sector to our detriment when we woke up to load shedding in November (not January as the myth goes);job backlogs as qualitative jobs shrank to make way for unemployment or risky and insecure jobs; cadreship backlog as people shifted allegiances to the right to stand in line to benefit from association with the "96 Class Project". If you have been here all this time you will also remember that the former President of the Republic once said in Parliament, "Does a virus cause a syndrome?" casting doubts on the linkage between HIV and AIDS, leading to years of confusion about the most appropriate response to the HIV & AIDS pandemic. I don't have the exact figures, but I know that whilst we dilly-dallied and sounded clever lots and lots of babies, children and adults died. If you have been here all this time, you will remember the insults that were showered on the left (which included Madisha then) in something called the "Briefing Notes", the insults showered on Mandela by departed comrades because he raised issues about HIV & AIDS in the ANC NEC and in the press; the insults have been pouring unceasingly on the left.... at some point someone had to react. It seems to me you were not here. If you have been here all this time, you will remember that Comrade JZ was fired from his post of DP of the Republic without any tangible proof of wrongdoing except for a lot of innuendos that were peddled by the disappointing media ad infinitum until it became a reality for many untrained minds. Just because it is repeated a billion times does not mean it's true. If you have been here all this time you will remember that the trained minds amongst us were suspecting interference with state organs as far back as the Hefer Commission, but the untrained minds of which there was a majority could not pick up on it. Judge Nicholson has picked up on this thread.... If you will be here when the whole truth comes out... you will learn that there has always been more to the arms deal than the eye can see. If only the Germans would be candid about the senior politician of the ANC and RSA government that they gave all those euros to. If only you could ask yourself who stood to gain most when the former President then DP reshuffled the arms tender committee, re-opened the arms tender process after it had been concluded and appointed his friends and made himself the Chairperson of the re-configured tender committee. If only we knew... for sure.. In any case, I suggest you go do some research for yourself on a number of these things. I think it will help you to find out things for yourself instead of someone just telling you, because the tendency is to take half-baked stories as science. In short, there were very compelling reasons for the developments in the run-up to Polokwane which ultimately delivered the leadership we have now. Stop peddling untruths. The leadership was elected to deal with factions and the bastardisation of ANC Policy from the Freedom Charter which at some point was referred to as an "idealistic document". Today that same clique wants us to believe that they are the pure-as-driven-snow custodians of the Freedom Charter. Comrade just don't waste our time and this space! It's tiring to respond to poorly informed inputs to this website. I suggest you study what the comrades are trying to teach you. They are trying to give you the tools of analysis and the ability of discernment between what is and the smoke and mirrors thing. On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:31:30 +0200 "senzo ncongolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well i agree with you cadre.my view is that the political > landscape has been > polarised by the tendency of individualism and nothing > else. first and > foremost these issues are not new with reagrd to lack of > political > angagement, ill discipline and the rest. you see mdu the > undermining and > insulting of senior leadership of the anc in the media > started to worsen in > 2005 as JZ was released out of office. what is > dissapointing is that even > current senior members of the ANC have join the people > who insult others in > platforms like media. Cdes are so obsessed with Thabo > Mbeki that if a week > can pass without issuing a statement attacking his image > would result in > illdiscipline. perhaps Mbekis view that there is a > Factory that continue to > manufacture lies about him is true. but then what do we > expect from a > leadership that was elected based on factional > tendency.how can ppl stand on > roof tops and shout that factinalism will be dealt with > when others continue > going to provinces and say that others must be dealt with > and they must know > who is in charge. > Mbeki has infected other ppl with denialism as the ANC is > in serious trouble > and yet others still say that there is no problem. lets > asses western > cape,gauteng political state and readiness of the ANC to > win them in the > upcoming elections. > lastly i welcome the efforts of Mbeki to challenge the > utterences of > nicholson and further clear his name. > oh and my advise to JZ is that he must not agree to a > public debate > requested by Mbeki as that might lead to other people > divorcing him. > this is the era of only agreeing with leadership (NEC), > so lets accept and > comply otherwise we will be illdiscipline and undermining > leadership. > > people can even question other comrades credentials > without really raising > issues of substence.character assasination, conspiracy > theories and others > are the order of the day. > > Turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon > cannot hear the > falconer, mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.....! a > liberation movement > without a name and now in need of leadership. > > engage the thought not the origin of the thought. > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Mduduzi H Vilakazi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Comrade Terrence!! > > > > I wonder why you think in that way. Why do you suspect > that those who raise > > their views are not independent but sent by "handlers". > We should refrain > > from running this forum like a faction. I understand > that this forum is for > > YCL that has preferred that ascendance of Msholozi to > power however I think > > that we should allow people to air their views so that > we are correctly > > located to analyze how society thinks. > > > > Our role as students of this communists is to give > everyone a chance to > > cough out whatever that which could not be coughed out > in relevant > > platforms. Your suggestion is correct in that there is > no revolutionary > > platform that cannot be hijacked however we should not > treat young minds > > with suspicion. Instead this forum should ensure that > knowledge is > > transferred and regurgitated. Calling others dangerous > defeat the purpose of > > this university. > > > > We cannot be a university of generally agreeing > students, we need that > > dissenting voice. Contradictions breed development and > I believe that the > > contradictory views that has occupied this cyberspace > have one way or the > > other sharpened our reasoning capacities. The approach > of doing away with > > those who do not share ones sentiments is against > democratic values and > > cannot be applied in this university. > > > > However, reckless statements or writings done against > anyone should be > > condemned. Equally, the leadership should guide us > correctly by playing away > > from dangerous statements such as the following: > > > > "Last kick of a dying horse" - Who is a dying horse? > > "Dead snake" - Why do we call other comrades "dead > snakes"? > > > > The language that our leaders adopted of late makes one > to wonder what > > happened in high offices. Is this a way of saying there > is us and them. Why > > do we allow leaders to divide this revolutionary > movement. The triumph-alist > > approach will not allow us space to heal the > organization. Instead it will > > deepen the crisis that many of us are denying its > existence. > > > > Moving forward: The role of the ANC, Alliance and MDM > structures is not to > > purge people or manage factionalism but to provide > leadership where it is > > due. The campaigns for next year's elections will not > be simpler than that > > of previous years. Let us put all our efforts in > ensuring a massive victory > > for the ANC. Amandla!! > > > > This message and any attachments relating to official > business of the Mpumalanga > > Provincial Government (MPG) is proprietary to the MPG > and intended for the > > original addressee only. The message may contain > information that is > > confidential and subject to legal privilege. Any views > expressed in this > > message are those of the individual sender. If you > receive this message in > > error, please notify the original sender immediately > and destroy the > > original message. 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