Well i agree with you cadre.my view is that the political landscape has been
polarised by the tendency of individualism and nothing else. first and
foremost these issues are not new  with reagrd to lack of political
angagement, ill discipline and the rest. you see mdu the undermining and
insulting of senior leadership of the anc in the media started to worsen in
2005 as JZ was released out of office. what is dissapointing is that even
current senior members of the ANC have join the people who insult others in
platforms like media. Cdes are so obsessed with Thabo Mbeki that if a week
can pass without issuing a statement attacking his image would result in
illdiscipline. perhaps Mbekis view that there is a Factory that continue to
manufacture lies about him is true. but then what do we expect from a
leadership that was elected based on factional tendency.how can ppl stand on
roof tops and shout that factinalism will be dealt with when others continue
going to provinces and say that others must be dealt with and they must know
who is in charge.
Mbeki has infected other ppl with denialism as the ANC is in serious trouble
and yet others still say that there is no problem. lets asses western
cape,gauteng political state and readiness of the ANC to win them in the
upcoming elections.
lastly i welcome the efforts of Mbeki to challenge the utterences of
nicholson and further clear his name.
oh and my advise to JZ is that he must not agree to a public debate
requested by Mbeki as that might lead to other people divorcing him.
this is the era of only agreeing with leadership (NEC), so lets accept and
comply otherwise we will be illdiscipline and undermining leadership.

people can even question other comrades credentials without really raising
issues of substence.character assasination, conspiracy theories and others
are the order of the day.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot hear the
falconer, mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.....! a liberation movement
without a name and now in need of leadership.

engage the thought not the origin of the thought.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Mduduzi H Vilakazi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  Comrade Terrence!!
>
> I wonder why you think in that way. Why do you suspect that those who raise
> their views are not independent but sent by "handlers". We should refrain
> from running this forum like a faction. I understand that this forum is for
> YCL that has preferred that ascendance of Msholozi to power however I think
> that we should allow people to air their views so that we are correctly
> located to analyze how society thinks.
>
> Our role as students of this communists is to give everyone a chance to
> cough out whatever that which could not be coughed out in relevant
> platforms. Your suggestion is correct in that there is no revolutionary
> platform that cannot be hijacked  however we should not treat young minds
> with suspicion. Instead this forum should ensure that knowledge is
> transferred and regurgitated. Calling others dangerous defeat the purpose of
> this university.
>
> We cannot be a university of generally agreeing students, we need that
> dissenting voice. Contradictions breed development and I believe that the
> contradictory views that has occupied this cyberspace have one way or the
> other sharpened our reasoning capacities. The approach of doing away with
> those who do not share ones sentiments is against democratic values and
> cannot be applied in this university.
>
> However, reckless statements or writings done against anyone should be
> condemned. Equally, the leadership should guide us correctly by playing away
> from dangerous statements such as the following:
>
> "Last kick of a dying horse" - Who is a dying horse?
> "Dead snake" - Why do we call other comrades "dead snakes"?
>
> The language that our leaders adopted of late makes one to wonder what
> happened in high offices. Is this a way of saying there is us and them. Why
> do we allow leaders to divide this revolutionary movement. The triumph-alist
> approach will not allow us space to heal the organization. Instead it will
> deepen the crisis that many of us are denying its existence.
>
> Moving forward: The role of the ANC, Alliance and MDM structures is not to
> purge people or manage factionalism but to provide leadership where it is
> due. The campaigns for next year's elections will not be simpler than that
> of previous years. Let us put all our efforts in ensuring a massive victory
> for the ANC. Amandla!!
>
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