Comrades, Who is Prince Mashele, did he really work in the Presidency before becoming an "expert" on many things?. I am raising this because his commentary and his questions in the TV program were problematic.
Regards On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maxabane, let us not invent and create unnecessary tensions among > ourselvs. It is clear that Cde Khaya's intention was not to popularise > Anele and her show but rather to keep us informed of developments. Surely, > the matter of the Youth Component of Shikota is something we cannot afford > to ignore. We must be informed of their plans, intentions and > activities,this will enable us develep and apply correct, informed abd > suffcient strategies to counter and defeat them. > > The second point i want to raise is that as marxist, we must demonstrate > high level of tolerence, discipline and understanding. It cannot be > corrcet that we are only prepared to listen to what we want to hear. > Marxist have a repsonsibility to study different forms of topics, interact > with diverse forms of knowledge and literature etc. Karl Marx dedicated > many years studying the writtings, anaylsis and conclusions of Dhuring > before he could respond to him with what is called anti-dhuring. > > I agree that we should be vigilant at all times, but vigilancy should not > be equated to simple labelling and vallification of others. > > Coming to the issues of Anele Mda and the new Shikota youth wing, my > intitial impresion of her is that she is an opportunist. I listened to her > in a debate on Special Assignment last night, the only issue she could > raise was the Kill for ZUMA Statement. Even when the preseneter asked her > waht she is going to offer to young people, her response again was that > her party is going to be a moral party which will not kill for Zuma. > Preceeding from the above, from a layman's point of anaylsis, it is clear > that the shikota youth wing will be an organsation of no substance. They > are not going to present young people with any alternatives, they will > mobilise on the ticket of morality, respect etc, as if they themselves > are custodians of morality. > > > > > > Cde Linda partly I agree with your thinking Comrades I wanted to remind > > some > > of you, Cde OR Tambo warned us at Morogolo Conference 1969 he said *'Wage > > a > > relentless war against disrupters and defend the ANC against provocateurs > > and enemy agents. Defend the revolution against enemy propaganda, > whatever > > form it takes. Be vigilant, comrades. The enemy is vigilant. Beware of > the > > wedge-driver, the man who creeps from ear to ear, carrying a bag full of > > wedges, driving them in between you and the next man, between a group and > > another, a man who goes round creating splits and divisions. Beware of > the > > wedge driver, comrades. Watch his poisonous tongue.'... so Im not saying > > that Cde called Khaya is trying to do WHAT Cde OR Tambo warned us 39 > years > > ago to guard against, phereps the very same Ms Anele Mda who is > advocasing > > the respect of Older people, She is the one who expelled in OR > > Tambo*District Municipality becouse of beating of peoples servant Cde > > Mama > > (Makhumalo) Mngoma becouse of just Biscuit and oranje juice. Interesting > > Cde > > Khaya is not telling us about the political behavour of that Fellow > colled > > Anele... > > > > > > Cadrez, Comrades, Friends and suppoters let us defend the ANC against the > > enemies > > > > Your in the defence of the Revolution > > > > Commander Ndura Gceba > > Committee for the Defence of the Revolution > > Hasta la victoria Siempre, Revolucian a Merteo > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM, LINDA SCHALK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Cds > >> i dnt know the whole motive behind khaya idea of forwarding this mail > >> based > >> on Anele's statement made on news24,but i smell a rat here, r u > >> suggesting > >> dat the YL shud promote anele statements and take sides based on which > >> grounds > >> > >> khaya xaba wrote: > >> > Johannesburg - The ANC splinter group's answer to Julius Malema is > >> causing waves. Meet Anele Mda: outspoken, passionate and, until 31 > >> October, > >> an executive committee member of the ANC Youth League. > >> > Now the 30-year-old youth activist has been appointed to convene the > >> youth wing of the ANC breakaway party started by former defence minister > >> Mosiuoa Lekota and former Gauteng premier Mbhazima Shilowa. > >> > Mda is already getting people excited with her vision of a united > >> South > >> African youth and of putting petty politics aside. > >> > "We stand for inclusiveness and the high moral ground of young people > >> in > >> general," said Mda, who has criticised the ANCYL for its exclusively > >> black > >> leadership. > >> > She quickly rose to national prominence and dominated media briefings > >> with her alternative perspective on youth leadership. > >> > Scathing about Malema > >> > In an interview with News24, Mda was scathing about ANCYL leader > >> Julius > >> Malema. > >> > "I don't spend a lot of my time thinking about Malema, but when I see > >> his behaviour I think it's as simple as a wild animal's behaviour," she > >> quipped. > >> > "There isn't any domestic animal I liken Malema's behaviour to > >> because > >> I'm going to do injustice to those animals." > >> > She took a swipe at the youth league's backing of ANC president Jacob > >> Zuma. > >> > "If we have a leader whose morality has been exposed to not be in > >> good > >> stand then we should not seek to back such individuals for the sake of > >> our > >> own popularity," she told News24. > >> > While Malema boasts of his politically-charged upbringing in > >> Polokwane, > >> Mda earned her credentials serving in ANC heartland itself. Born in > >> Bizana > >> in the Eastern Cape , she grew up in Mthata and founded an NGO, the Port > >> St > >> Johns HIV and Aids Information Centre, when still in her late teens. She > >> now > >> works for the Eastern Cape Youth Commission. > >> > She called her NGO work with young girls an eye-opening experience > >> and > >> wants to encourage a culture of volunteerism amongst SA youth. > >> > "For example our Crime Foot Soldiers," she said, referring to one of > >> many initiatives to be discussed at a conference in January. "Young > >> people > >> must become the ears and eyes of society." > >> > Misgivings about the ANC > >> > Mda says she had her first misgivings about the ANC and its youth > >> league > >> in 2005. "There was a gap between the then president of the ANC, Comrade > >> Thabo Mbeki, and the collective NEC at large." > >> > She described how controversial decisions made by the ANC would be > >> attributed to Mbeki while the National Executive Committee would take > >> credit > >> for what worked. > >> > "I started to smell a rat and I began to feel wary of the whole > >> thing. > >> To my knowledge of how the ANC operated, whether in bad or happier > >> times, we > >> stick together." > >> > She tried raising her concerns several times at various levels of the > >> league, but realised that political games were being played and > >> positions > >> earned. "Certain individuals secured for themselves whatever it is they > >> were > >> promised," she said. "It was political manipulation." > >> > The new youth wing > >> > Cue the new youth wing, which Mda promises will focus on education, > >> health, the economy and the fight against crime. > >> > "We no longer want our people continuously being fed by the hand of > >> government," she said. "We want to promote a culture of non-dependency." > >> > But she is thin on detail on how these areas will be changed. A clear > >> policy will only emerge out of January's conference. > >> > But one thing is certain. She's is stepping into a youth leadership > >> vacuum in the country, and attracting those Malema has alienated with > >> his > >> controversial statements and allegiances. "We do not subscribe to the > >> notion > >> that says we value party loyalty more than the requirements of general > >> masses of our country at large," she said. > >> > COMMUNIST REGARDS > >> > EVER ONWARD TO VICTORY > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. 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