that person was asking what he wants to hear. i think Floyd was to smart for those people there. that boer boy is just waisting his time. it is not the first time he appears on tv, he was also delt with by then President of SASCO David.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:03 PM, sabelo gina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Comrades, > > Who is Prince Mashele, did he really work in the Presidency before becoming > an "expert" on many things?. I am raising this because his commentary and > his questions in the TV program were problematic. > > Regards > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Maxabane, let us not invent and create unnecessary tensions among >> ourselvs. It is clear that Cde Khaya's intention was not to popularise >> Anele and her show but rather to keep us informed of developments. Surely, >> the matter of the Youth Component of Shikota is something we cannot afford >> to ignore. We must be informed of their plans, intentions and >> activities,this will enable us develep and apply correct, informed abd >> suffcient strategies to counter and defeat them. >> >> The second point i want to raise is that as marxist, we must demonstrate >> high level of tolerence, discipline and understanding. It cannot be >> corrcet that we are only prepared to listen to what we want to hear. >> Marxist have a repsonsibility to study different forms of topics, interact >> with diverse forms of knowledge and literature etc. Karl Marx dedicated >> many years studying the writtings, anaylsis and conclusions of Dhuring >> before he could respond to him with what is called anti-dhuring. >> >> I agree that we should be vigilant at all times, but vigilancy should not >> be equated to simple labelling and vallification of others. >> >> Coming to the issues of Anele Mda and the new Shikota youth wing, my >> intitial impresion of her is that she is an opportunist. I listened to her >> in a debate on Special Assignment last night, the only issue she could >> raise was the Kill for ZUMA Statement. Even when the preseneter asked her >> waht she is going to offer to young people, her response again was that >> her party is going to be a moral party which will not kill for Zuma. >> Preceeding from the above, from a layman's point of anaylsis, it is clear >> that the shikota youth wing will be an organsation of no substance. They >> are not going to present young people with any alternatives, they will >> mobilise on the ticket of morality, respect etc, as if they themselves >> are custodians of morality. >> >> >> >> >> > Cde Linda partly I agree with your thinking Comrades I wanted to remind >> > some >> > of you, Cde OR Tambo warned us at Morogolo Conference 1969 he said >> *'Wage >> > a >> > relentless war against disrupters and defend the ANC against >> provocateurs >> > and enemy agents. Defend the revolution against enemy propaganda, >> whatever >> > form it takes. Be vigilant, comrades. The enemy is vigilant. Beware of >> the >> > wedge-driver, the man who creeps from ear to ear, carrying a bag full of >> > wedges, driving them in between you and the next man, between a group >> and >> > another, a man who goes round creating splits and divisions. Beware of >> the >> > wedge driver, comrades. Watch his poisonous tongue.'... so Im not >> saying >> > that Cde called Khaya is trying to do WHAT Cde OR Tambo warned us 39 >> years >> > ago to guard against, phereps the very same Ms Anele Mda who is >> advocasing >> > the respect of Older people, She is the one who expelled in OR >> > Tambo*District Municipality becouse of beating of peoples servant Cde >> > Mama >> > (Makhumalo) Mngoma becouse of just Biscuit and oranje juice. Interesting >> > Cde >> > Khaya is not telling us about the political behavour of that Fellow >> colled >> > Anele... >> > >> > >> > Cadrez, Comrades, Friends and suppoters let us defend the ANC against >> the >> > enemies >> > >> > Your in the defence of the Revolution >> > >> > Commander Ndura Gceba >> > Committee for the Defence of the Revolution >> > Hasta la victoria Siempre, Revolucian a Merteo >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM, LINDA SCHALK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Cds >> >> i dnt know the whole motive behind khaya idea of forwarding this mail >> >> based >> >> on Anele's statement made on news24,but i smell a rat here, r u >> >> suggesting >> >> dat the YL shud promote anele statements and take sides based on which >> >> grounds >> >> >> >> khaya xaba wrote: >> >> > Johannesburg - The ANC splinter group's answer to Julius Malema is >> >> causing waves. Meet Anele Mda: outspoken, passionate and, until 31 >> >> October, >> >> an executive committee member of the ANC Youth League. >> >> > Now the 30-year-old youth activist has been appointed to convene the >> >> youth wing of the ANC breakaway party started by former defence >> minister >> >> Mosiuoa Lekota and former Gauteng premier Mbhazima Shilowa. >> >> > Mda is already getting people excited with her vision of a united >> >> South >> >> African youth and of putting petty politics aside. >> >> > "We stand for inclusiveness and the high moral ground of young >> people >> >> in >> >> general," said Mda, who has criticised the ANCYL for its exclusively >> >> black >> >> leadership. >> >> > She quickly rose to national prominence and dominated media >> briefings >> >> with her alternative perspective on youth leadership. >> >> > Scathing about Malema >> >> > In an interview with News24, Mda was scathing about ANCYL leader >> >> Julius >> >> Malema. >> >> > "I don't spend a lot of my time thinking about Malema, but when I >> see >> >> his behaviour I think it's as simple as a wild animal's behaviour," she >> >> quipped. >> >> > "There isn't any domestic animal I liken Malema's behaviour to >> >> because >> >> I'm going to do injustice to those animals." >> >> > She took a swipe at the youth league's backing of ANC president >> Jacob >> >> Zuma. >> >> > "If we have a leader whose morality has been exposed to not be in >> >> good >> >> stand then we should not seek to back such individuals for the sake of >> >> our >> >> own popularity," she told News24. >> >> > While Malema boasts of his politically-charged upbringing in >> >> Polokwane, >> >> Mda earned her credentials serving in ANC heartland itself. Born in >> >> Bizana >> >> in the Eastern Cape , she grew up in Mthata and founded an NGO, the >> Port >> >> St >> >> Johns HIV and Aids Information Centre, when still in her late teens. >> She >> >> now >> >> works for the Eastern Cape Youth Commission. >> >> > She called her NGO work with young girls an eye-opening experience >> >> and >> >> wants to encourage a culture of volunteerism amongst SA youth. >> >> > "For example our Crime Foot Soldiers," she said, referring to one of >> >> many initiatives to be discussed at a conference in January. "Young >> >> people >> >> must become the ears and eyes of society." >> >> > Misgivings about the ANC >> >> > Mda says she had her first misgivings about the ANC and its youth >> >> league >> >> in 2005. "There was a gap between the then president of the ANC, >> Comrade >> >> Thabo Mbeki, and the collective NEC at large." >> >> > She described how controversial decisions made by the ANC would be >> >> attributed to Mbeki while the National Executive Committee would take >> >> credit >> >> for what worked. >> >> > "I started to smell a rat and I began to feel wary of the whole >> >> thing. >> >> To my knowledge of how the ANC operated, whether in bad or happier >> >> times, we >> >> stick together." >> >> > She tried raising her concerns several times at various levels of >> the >> >> league, but realised that political games were being played and >> >> positions >> >> earned. "Certain individuals secured for themselves whatever it is they >> >> were >> >> promised," she said. "It was political manipulation." >> >> > The new youth wing >> >> > Cue the new youth wing, which Mda promises will focus on education, >> >> health, the economy and the fight against crime. >> >> > "We no longer want our people continuously being fed by the hand of >> >> government," she said. "We want to promote a culture of >> non-dependency." >> >> > But she is thin on detail on how these areas will be changed. A >> clear >> >> policy will only emerge out of January's conference. >> >> > But one thing is certain. She's is stepping into a youth leadership >> >> vacuum in the country, and attracting those Malema has alienated with >> >> his >> >> controversial statements and allegiances. "We do not subscribe to the >> >> notion >> >> that says we value party loyalty more than the requirements of general >> >> masses of our country at large," she said. >> >> > COMMUNIST REGARDS >> >> > EVER ONWARD TO VICTORY >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >> >> >> >> -- Sive Gumenge Cape Peninsula University of Technology Young Communist League Branch Sec Bellville Campus 076 8945 800 Bellville 7535 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. 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