Thanx for raising your views on this matter Cde Mangaliso, I fully agree with you that in our analysis and perspectitive, we should at all times avoid personalities. Unfortunetly your submission does not assist in this regard, you are calling for substantative discussion but you quikley summerise your input by defending the right of a particular person to stand for leadership position. The reality is, Cosas constitution is very clear on who qulaifies to stand as a leader, it is therefore wrong for any pesron to stand for leadership of cosas when out of school.Secondly, it is within our right to raise concern about this glorious organsation that we once belonged. Let us not be intolerant, raising genuine and open concerns is not tantamount to character assasination or hatred as you mentioned. In fact some of us avoided to raise names of specific individuals, we are more general because we have obsrved that these challenges are broad.
The resolutions of both the YCL AND YL national confernces call for strengthening of cosas, i agree with the cadre who said Pya at the national level should be pragramatic on the issue. I also want to add that such intervention shouldn't be left to National leadership only, let see how colleectievly in our various capacity do we assist cosas. > I dont think that any of the comments are from former members of COSAS. > All > you are interested in is a personality and have not looked at the role > played by these young people in transforming and fighting for the rights > of > learners and the transformaion of education. > > Yours is an undertone of anger, as I avoid referring to hatred which has > caused Terror not to appreciate the rule of the majority, democracy. When > the learners choose one from their ranks and resolve to lobby and place > him > in the centre as their leader, its not important whether you like him or > not. He remains the popular chaoice and the elected/ nominated one and > that > is democracy in practise. Lets move away from being democrats in theory > and > revolutionary when it serves our purpose, rather lets look at how we can > enhance and strengthen the role played by comrades like Mahlathini and > others, without maintaining arrogance of intellect and revolutionary > superiority. > > Hope this might trigger honest criticism and open criticism that is meant > to > build each other and not sow divisions and hatred from within the ranks of > the Mass Democratic Movement. > > hasta la victoria Siempre > > On 08/12/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Cadres, what you are raising is definetly a topic we should all be >> concern >> about. The state of cosas leaves much to be desired, there is >> overwhelmeing evidence of a decaying student movement. Like Anc, Sacp >> and >> other progressive formations, Cosas has not been and is not immune from >> infiltration by opportunists, careerist, and all forms and >> manifastations >> of foreign tendencies. I have been a member and a leader of cosas >> myself, >> i know very well that cosas throughout its existence embraced a >> militant, >> vibrant and radical leradership, this is one of the core principles that >> has distinguished cosas from other youth formations. But with due >> respect, >> the militant and radical charecter of cosas has been lately diluted and >> confussed with anarchy, dangerous rhetoric and problematic lifestyle. >> One >> of the emerging tendency is poeple who want to lead cosas even years >> beyond their schooling, others deliberatly repeats grade 11 for 2-3 >> years >> so that they can remain in cosas, others literally drop out of school >> yet >> contunue to lead cosas. We cannot allow these kind of tendencies, cosas >> should prepare and produce cadres who will advance to FET and Higher >> Education Institutions, these should be critical pool of leaners >> baptised >> with tghe congress movement traditions from high school education. >> >> >> I hope that National Confernce of Cosas which is taking place in Cape >> Town >> will deal these issues, the state of organsation and charecter of cosas >> in >> the current dispensation. I agree with cde matimba that cosas need to >> introspect itself, in particular the kind of issues they raise. As >> revoluntionary marxists we know very well that education should not be >> divorced from broader sociatal matters of politilcal economy, Cosas as >> a >> revolutionary student movmenet should be intersted in the politics of >> the >> Country, but this should not be at the expense of bread and butter >> issues >> confronting school ediucation in our Country. We want to hear more the >> voice and perspective of cosas on scholl curriculum, scholl >> infrasctruture, ICT, Busaries, cultlture of learning and teaching, >> matric >> pass rate , teenege pregnency, school violence etc. Cosas should not >> compete with the Ancyl on Anc politics, it shoiuld rather complement the >> Yl, what we are hearing on the ground is cosas which goes to Anc >> Confernces and pronounce leadership. This should not be the standing >> item >> of Cosas, for sure Anc is interested to hear the perspective of cosas on >> a >> variety of issues i have listed above. The Ancyl has got the capacity to >> influence leadership in the Anc , so is YCL in the Sacp, Cosas should >> complete where neccessary. >> >> I lastly agree with Matimba that we cannot claim things are normal when >> high school pupil develop unconquarable lust for expensive and dated >> liquore, this comrades represents a culture of materialism, expensive >> lifestyl and greed. Let us not perpetuate these things by using cosas >> leaders wrongly, ours is to guide them and encourage them to develop >> skills. Our country and democracy require more young people who are >> conscious and armed with skills, that is what is susatainable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I agree totally with u cadre. >> > >> > I attended the so Called COSAS congress during the week in Soweto. i >> was >> > shocked!!!! No commssesion were held. No resolutionon the state of >> > education were pronounced on. The only thing that took place there was >> > jsut drinking and more drinking by school pupils and leaders nogal. >> > >> > My view is that we must look at COSAS as a microcosm of the state of >> our >> > movement generally and the youth and student formations in particular. >> > Mahlathini's political conduct is a reflection of the lack of >> political >> > education that we so loosely talk about. Mahlathini for me is a case >> study >> > of a good culture, system, tradition and ethos gone wrong. For example >> the >> > aphesis on academic education is put through strongly enough any more >> on >> > these COSAS cadres. And hence these cadres miss out on a glorious >> > opportunity for them to expend and straighten grasp and global and >> > internal balance of forces. Another thing is that ANC and the ANC >> youth >> > league has not taken the internal dynamics of COSAS serious for a very >> > long time. COSAS has been left to run amok with what ideally is >> suppose >> > to be a revolutionary students movement that speak clearly to the >> needs >> of >> > students and education in general. >> > >> > Cadres Mahlathini is just but a drop in the ocean in as far as the rot >> > that is taking place in the youth section of our movement is concern. >> (And >> > when I say ROT I choose my words carefully). These are cadres who >> would >> > rather drink whiskies with older and discuss list processes with older >> > comrades rather than do their homework…they don't go to school so they >> > know nothing about the challenges faced by ordinary pupils. There're >> is >> > just to organize strikes on issues they know nothing about. They sing >> in >> > ANC meeting and therefore misconstrued to political clarity. >> > >> > One of the anomalies we're still faced with is our temptation to use >> these >> > young people came congresses for use own selfish political ambitions. >> > Therefore loosing any integrity when the time comes for us to >> reprimand >> > them ( after all how can you expect to be listen to while you self >> lack >> > revolutionary morality). We have created in the minds of cadres like >> > Mahlathini that political maturity is a fly by night process and >> therefore >> > can be attained with a drop of a pen. Thus we create a monster!!! >> > >> > The ANC needs to realize that COSAS is not just a prep school for ANC >> and >> > ANCYL but a "school of excellence" of same sort. Where we carve out >> the >> > BEST the movement has to offer. >> > >> > On a lighter note: As for Mahlathini I think don't there's nothing a >> good >> > bath and political education retreat can't fix. 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