I salute all those comrades who have strength and time to respond to comrade 
Mutshidza. please comrades respond to his challenge. Many  neo-liberal 
technicists think they know en they throw technical speak around. In three days 
if comrades fail, I promise I will gather strength to respond, but I must say 
comrade Mutshidza en his type are exhausting.
For instance, am still waiting to hear comrades who supported GEAR saying that 
was a neo-liberal Project and it conflicts with Freedom Charter etc. or   
making a public announcement. They raise all World Bank Researches on how 
growth determines  redistribution, creating conditions for FDI etc So I advice 
comrades should step by step show neo-pliberal character of Privatisation en 
arguments of Mutshidza
Again I agree while we not seeking neo-liberals permission to be characterized 
as such, but when we characterize them as such lets do  both a political and 
ideological analysis as oppose to just throwing a label at them
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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nndwamato Mutshidza
Sent: 19 February 2009 02:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Working towards better life for all


Cde Fundi  et al,

I am not a proponent of Neoliberal Agenda. However the question which all of 
you are not willing to engage (Economic one) who must finance these services. 
You see in the case of Electricity you have a National Utility (Eskom) and 
National Government that is responsible for Free Electricity Allocation to 
those Municipalities. Hence the same electricity has moved from conventional 
metering to pre-paid because some Municipalities just decide to guess what was 
the consumption over the previous months and punish the poor person. I am 
saying this because the very same City of Joburg run by the ANC has element 
which talks to spending of the allocation by the National Treasury through 
DPLG. It is not about educating or reeducating is about what the ANC said and 
based on Costed Figures as oppose to some thumb sucking approach. The ANC in 
the manifesto never talk to this propaganda which all of you are sawing. Hence 
the five priorities which if you have time you should go and look at. The issue 
of free basic services emanate from the expansion of the Resolution of the 52nd 
Conference and we have never went to the public and promise them free services 
including the Education.
Tthe ANC has said we will ensure that no-school fee is increased to 60%. We 
have said we will create sustainable likelihood by rolling out infrastructures 
that will enable the provision of all services irrespective of the fact that it 
for Indigent or the other able citizens. What I want to further end my 
contribution on this matter is do you think Conventional meters  resolve the 
issue of provision of Free Water? Because our experience on these meters is 
that there is no one who reads them but the Municipality or Agency estimate the 
rate at which you have consumed the water and send a bill, which  Soweto 
residence will tell you of the experience around these bogus meter readings. 
Hence this continue misinformation of what the NAC Manifesto said should come 
to an End. Yes the Economic Summit deliberated on these matters and resolved 
but those things have not being made policies of the ANC and our Alliance teams 
are still working around them. Do not tell us what you here from grapevine and 
want to make that an ANC stand and what the ANC  said it will provide to the 
poor. Lets read and engage from an informed position

You see you are not solving the problem by refusing an instrument that enable 
you to measure qualitatively that you said you will provide to people. In the 
same vein no one said those in porch areas should not have prepaid meters. 
Again the experience tell that instead our own people do to crime level does 
not provide access for meter readings and as such the Munics end up Estimating. 
Hence I am not convinced by any one of you as to your opposition to why the ANC 
led Municipality should not Appeal and why DWAF should not support that. 
Because at the core here is that we want to continue to provide these services 
and we need an instrument to justify that we said we will provide

Because from all of you response I see no one attempting to answer the 
questions I posed and further no one is disagreeing with the  provision of 
those services. The discourse is what kind of instrument should we measure how 
much was used freely in line with Indigent policy. Unless I am wrong you will 
clarify. The issue I said is whether this 50L is enough or not and no one seems 
to engage on that. I have asked the  fact that 50L in a African family is not 
enough of which most of the Indigent customers of the City of Joburg are in 
this category.

Lets then start a debate that will be in line with what the character of the 
ANC cadres should do. Formulate a position paper on the Review of the White 
Paper on Water and not make reference to UN guidelines. We have never even 
currently not being unable to provide solution to the problems facing our 
people. Lets as expected petition the review of 50L as  minimum level of water 
provision and other primary energy services that is available.

I remain


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