Comrade Mdu,
You are correct that Cde Mxolisi might be concluding on the results other than the route cause, unfortunately you also fall on the same trap and conclude on processes leading to the result aand not the route cause as you suggest, I further fully agree that lawlessness is lawlessness, however if we are to agree that we should deal with the route cause, the following might be an interesting point, that; The Department of Defence has disbanded and or abondoned the Military Bargaining Council for the past two years for the reasons only known to themselves, there is no platform for soldiers to engage the Defence Authorities on their matters of rights and interests. It is for the same reasons that the Department ran to High Court for order in an established where Dispute Machanisms on labour Relations are in existence but ignored for reasons we do not know. It could therefore be interesting to know where else soldiers could express their discontent and also expose those are in authority in Defence except to enbark in a peaceful march. Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:03:24 +0200 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA condemns the dismissal of soldiers bythe Minister of Defence and Military veterans Cde Mxolisi, You are concluding on the result other than the root cause. The root cause of the problem is that the soldiers undermined a court ruling. This is but one of the organs of the state. I fully agree with comrade Tom, lawlessness is lawlessness and we must not make a hullabaloo about it. Society should learn that this is but one country rich in law and should always be taught to abide by the law. It is not correct that because those who broke the law are many then dismissal is incorrect. No matter the size, society must be taught to respect the rule of law. There is no due process in undermining organs of the state. There is court proof that what the soldiers was against the law. There is no need for a hearing, dismasal is the only way to send a message that no matter your responsibility in the country, we are all expected to function within the confines of the law. I believe that the inputs by Cde Tom, Cde Morgan and others will assist you to grasp the base and not solve the result. The dismissal is the result of disrespect for the rule of law - Isnt that simple? I remain. >>> "Mxolisi Mlatha" <[email protected]> 02/09/2009 10:14 >>> Our country becomes a banana republic when we start firing people without any due process. Any caring society must always be weighted in favor of the poor, disadvantaged and weak no the state. When workers (soldiers) are dismissed without regard to due process and the outdrawn failures of the state to respond to legitimate grievances then we are fading into a banana republic.This is the only thing that is right about your banana republic statement my comrade. Mxolisi --- Sent from UnionMail Service [http://mail.union.org.za] This message and any attachments relating to official business of the Mpumalanga Provincial Government (MPG) is proprietary to the MPG and intended for the original addressee only. The message may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. If you receive this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately and destroy the original message. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy, use, distribute, or take any action in connection therewith. The MPG cannot insure that the integrity of this communication has been maintained, nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception and / or interference. The MPG is not liable whatsoever for loss or damage resulting from the opening of this message and / or attachments and / or the use of the information contained in this message and / or attachments. _________________________________________________________________ See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
