Cde I just subcribed yesterday and I thought it was a wrong site because it 
was all about Julius and Floyd, I want to concur that the engagements should 
not be limited to individual materilism it will make us lose focus really. I 
think both Julius and Cronin has thier views on the matter and I believe its 
not the end of the world to start with nationalising mines we would learn 
from the lessons considering our current economic state.

You are not the only people to halt delivery now many leaders have different 
visions and ways of doing things leave the ANC YL to do likewise rather 
concentrate on what the YCL deems important to do to the youth of the 
country this is suppose to be a joint effort as its multifaced strugge for 
economic emancipation.ke bua jwalo ka ntate jwale.

Mike,FS
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ngcobo, Thamsanqa" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Julius and Floyd Must Be Recalled Enough is 
Enough


Cmrd I think this mate should be discussed within the ANC structures.

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-----Original Message-----
From: NT Zwane [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Julius and Floyd Must Be Recalled Enough is
Enough

Cde

Cde Julius Malema is dividing the PYA and his verbal diarrhoea
continues to destruct comrades from focusing on what needs to be done
by all MDM structures "i.e. to create a better life for all". South
Africans are still waiting for "The Better Life for All" that they
were promised. Julius is forgetting that we are a non racial and non
sexist org. Calling people white messiahs is really going against
these principles that we always advocate as the MDM. Julius and his
friends the MTV Crowd (Some ANCYL NEC members, obsessed with fame and
bling, including Floyd) must be recalled because they are not taking
us anywhere instead they continue to confuse the youth.

Some of our branches are in institutions of higher learning where the
majority of students are still whites. It is imperative for us as the
PYA to convince these white students that we are pushing for a correct
course. When we play a race card for no reason we are going to loose
these white votes and eventually fail to transform the institutions of
higher learning. Julius grow up  it is not always about race,
education sometimes enhances the way we reason and Julius you really
need to do something about your reasoning capacity.

  It is not a matter of who is correct or not, we must not compromise
our principles for no apparent reasons.  When are we going to the NGC
of the ANCYL where Julius will be recalled, and where   real and
honest leaders will emerge and help us in advancing the objectives of
the NDR?

Cde Floyd (ANCYL SPOKESPERSON) seems to be suffering from amnesia.
Just because now he is driving luxurious cars and drinking expensive
whisky's he is forgetting what he always preached at Wits when he was
still an undergrad there. Floyd let us remind you, you always
criticised and even demonised the ANC and its youth league for living
flamboyant lifestyles which is by the way what you are doing now. You
have a nerve to criticise the YCL saying they are coming with insults
where as you are the one who always threw insults on the Youth League
and the 1996 Class Project. Let us be true to ourselves and stop
behaving like the MTV Crowd people who have no purpose and direction
in life.

Floyd you must go and consult someone who will assist you to regain
your memory maybe you will start speaking sense, what you always utter
nowadays are just sponsored views, or by the way if you don't push
their narrow and ill-informed agenda the cars will just vanish.

Proudly ANCYL, YCL and SASCO MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING University of
Pretoria

Nicholas Zwane



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