Well in as much as we would like to distance ourselves from this reality, and I barely believe u-mama meant to dislodge u-tata but reality is what ever is she said is nothing but the relevent truth, seeds of such are seen in the latest developments in our political space, it is neccesarry for such stalwarts to aknoledge the reality.
the only truth ever said since the reliease of Madiba is what u-mama is saying. Knowing this as a personal view of comrade Winnie, but reality is many coward but influential leaders in the ANC and through out the MDM structure know is the truth. I would have if I could challenge all in the NEC of the ANC, CC of the SACP and CEC of COSATU to comment with content in the matter at hand. Given the realities faced by our South African society, we can say it clear that Comrade Mandala has turned to be a token of Bourgeoisie, his name has now became a commodity, whereby it sells faster than fat-kooks in a taxi rank, this has been taken advantage of by capitalist and has merged its continuity in exploiting and profit orientation through the name of the said cadre. Yes it should be acknowledged like that Madiba spent mountus years in prison for the name of freedom, but he is currently spending his last days in life in the name of capitalism. this maybe my personal view, but for so many years I have been personally question his contribution visa vee his current business outlook, what relevancy is it to the struggle, is it set in his mind that the struggle has long ended by him become the first democratic black president, does he even consider the flaws caused by some of the agreements he took, as gradually as some of us, will in this case say that he was not alone in those discussions but through a collective it was taken, but how about we also consider that he is not the only freedom fighter as we have given him a world out look. If we would have been class content we could in this case also give ideological analysis in his release from prison, was it just or or collaborated intent to drive some regimic remains, as it was obviously clear that the revolution from the counter parts was engagingly strong and posed a formidable threat to the existence of white domination. It is also clear that the self acclaimed moralist priest, did not understand the role of the revolution and its then gains, my personal opinion on his particpatary role in the TRC was nothing but as an agent of impiralism and to diveldge the reactionary role played by comrade Madiba. I do not mean to prown but I do not think mama-Winnie is falsified by these contemplation that existed pre and post de Klerk's era. Given the reluctant relationship of the three (Madiba, Tutu and de Klerk) and their nobility to the world of empiricist I have personally decided to study their relationship with the third world force, and I challenge all cadres to give perspective to the comments made by mama-Winnie, I would have loved to hear what comrade VC Domza have to say given that a stalwart and closed revolutionary partner to tata has given this perspective and she is unshaken by the world weight of Madiba. Will be waiting, hasta siempre la comandante Sithembewena Tsembeyi ________________________________ From: NT Zwane <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 10:05:55 AM Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Winnie says Mandela let us down AMANDLA MAMA WINNIE Quoting Sandile Ngcobo <[email protected]>: > I've been waiting for years for someone amongst the leadership to say this; > Mandela was not alone though, it's was a collective decision. > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Sithembewena tsembeyi > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Winnie says Mandela let us down 09 March 2010 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> Winnie Madikizela-Mandela >> Mandela is now a corporate foundation >> Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young >> revolutionary. But look what came out >> Maybe we have to go back to the drawing board and see where it all went >> >> Struggle stalwart Winnie Madikizela-Mandela bitterly lashed out at Nelson >> Mandela in an interview published in the London Evening Standard this week. >> >> She said South Africa's first democratically elected president, who is >> also her ex-husband, had become a "corporate foundation" who was being >> "wheeled out to collect the money". >> >> Madikizela-Mandela also called Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu a "cretin", >> in the interview with Nadira Naipaul, who visited her with her husband, the >> writer VS Naipaul, in Soweto. >> >> "Mandela let us down," said Madikizela-Mandela. >> >> "He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically, we are still on the >> outside. >> >> "The economy is very much 'white'. It has a few token blacks, but so many >> who gave their life in the struggle have died >> >> unrewarded," said Madikizela-Mandela, in the interview published on >> www.standard.co.uk. >> >> She said Mandela had no control over the ANC anymore and was just being >> used by the Nelson Mandela Foundation to get funds. >> >> "Look what they make him do. The great Mandela. He has no control or say >> any more. They put that huge statue of him right in the middle of the most >> affluent 'white' area of Johannesburg. Not here where we spilled our blood >> and where it all started. >> >> "Mandela is now a corporate foundation. He is wheeled out globally to >> collect the money and he is content doing that. The ANC have effectively >> sidelined him but they keep him as a figurehead for the sake of appearance." >> >> Madikizela-Mandela said Mandela was not the only leader who suffered. >> >> "This name Mandela is an albatross around the necks of my family. You all >> must realise that Mandela was not the only man who suffered. There were many >> others, hundreds who languished in prison and died. >> >> "Many unsung and unknown heroes of the struggle, and there were others in >> the leadership too, like poor Steve Biko, who died of the beatings, horribly >> all alone. >> >> "Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young >> revolutionary. But look what came out." >> >> Madikizela-Mandela criticised him for accepting the Nobel Peace Prize with >> the apartheid government's last president, FW de Klerk. >> >> "I cannot forgive him for going to receive the Nobel [Peace Prize in 1993] >> with his jailer [FW] de Klerk. Hand in hand they >> >> went. >> >> "Do you think De Klerk released him from the goodness of his heart? He had >> to. The times dictated it, the world had changed, and our struggle was not a >> flash in the pan, it was bloody to say the least and we had given rivers of >> blood. >> >> "I had kept it alive with every means at my disposal." >> >> She also lashed out at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission process, >> criticising Tutu, its chairman. >> >> "Look at this Truth and Reconciliation charade. He [Mandela] should never >> have agreed to it. >> >> "What good does the truth do? How does it help anyone to know where and how >> their loved ones were killed or buried? That Bishop Tutu who turned it all >> into a religious circus came here. >> >> "He had the cheek to tell me to appear. I told him a few home truths. I >> told him that he and his other like-minded cretins were only sitting here >> because of our struggle and me. Because of the things I and people like me >> had done to get freedom." >> >> Looking back, she said the movement's actions were badly planned. >> >> "You know, sometimes I think we had not thought it all out. There was no >> planning from our side. How could we? We were badly educated and the >> leadership does not acknowledge that. Maybe we have to go back to the >> drawing board and see where it all went wrong." - Sapa >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to >> this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. >> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >> put anything in the message part. 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