The truth always hurts. If this is not true, then what is the furse all bout. Let us ignore her coz "she is out of line", but we cant coz yiqiniso.

Quoting "Kanego, Clarence Thete" <[email protected]>:

Comrades, I agree with you. She raises revolutionary questions and concerns
however I am not if it was correct of her to raise it in the media let alone
in the land of the imperialists! I believe she was out of line.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:05 AM, NT Zwane <[email protected]> wrote:


AMANDLA MAMA WINNIE


Quoting Sandile Ngcobo <[email protected]>:

I've been waiting for years for someone amongst the leadership to say this;
Mandela was not alone though, it's was a collective decision.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Sithembewena tsembeyi
<[email protected]>wrote:

  Winnie says Mandela let us down 09 March 2010

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Winnie Madikizela-Mandela
Mandela is now a corporate foundation
Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young
revolutionary. But look what came out
Maybe we have to go back to the drawing board and see where it all went

Struggle stalwart Winnie Madikizela-Mandela bitterly lashed out at Nelson
Mandela in an interview published in the London Evening Standard this
week.

 She said South Africa's first democratically elected president, who is
also her ex-husband, had become a "corporate foundation" who was being
"wheeled out to collect the money".

Madikizela-Mandela also called Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu a
"cretin",
in the interview with Nadira Naipaul, who visited her with her husband,
the
writer VS Naipaul, in Soweto.

"Mandela let us down," said Madikizela-Mandela.

"He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically, we are still on
the
outside.

"The economy is very much 'white'. It has a few token blacks, but so many
who gave their life in the struggle have died

unrewarded," said Madikizela-Mandela, in the interview published on
www.standard.co.uk.

She said Mandela had no control over the ANC anymore and was just being
used by the Nelson Mandela Foundation to get funds.

"Look what they make him do. The great Mandela. He has no control or say
any more. They put that huge statue of him right in the middle of the
most
affluent 'white' area of Johannesburg. Not here where we spilled our
blood
and where it all started.

"Mandela is now a corporate foundation. He is wheeled out globally to
collect the money and he is content doing that. The ANC have effectively
sidelined him but they keep him as a figurehead for the sake of
appearance."

Madikizela-Mandela said Mandela was not the only leader who suffered.

"This name Mandela is an albatross around the necks of my family. You all
must realise that Mandela was not the only man who suffered. There were
many
others, hundreds who languished in prison and died.

"Many unsung and unknown heroes of the struggle, and there were others in
the leadership too, like poor Steve Biko, who died of the beatings,
horribly
all alone.

"Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young
revolutionary. But look what came out."

Madikizela-Mandela criticised him for accepting the Nobel Peace Prize
with
the apartheid government's last president, FW de Klerk.

"I cannot forgive him for going to receive the Nobel [Peace Prize in
1993]
with his jailer [FW] de Klerk. Hand in hand they

went.

"Do you think De Klerk released him from the goodness of his heart? He
had
to. The times dictated it, the world had changed, and our struggle was
not a
flash in the pan, it was bloody to say the least and we had given rivers
of
blood.

"I had kept it alive with every means at my disposal."

She also lashed out at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission process,
criticising Tutu, its chairman.

"Look at this Truth and Reconciliation charade. He [Mandela] should never
have agreed to it.

"What good does the truth do? How does it help anyone to know where and
how
their loved ones were killed or buried? That Bishop Tutu who turned it
all
into a religious circus came here.

"He had the cheek to tell me to appear. I told him a few home truths. I
told him that he and his other like-minded cretins were only sitting here
because of our struggle and me. Because of the things I and people like
me
had done to get freedom."

Looking back, she said the movement's actions were badly planned.

"You know, sometimes I think we had not thought it all out. There was no
planning from our side. How could we? We were badly educated and the
leadership does not acknowledge that. Maybe we have to go back to the
drawing board and see where it all went wrong." - Sapa

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