Hi comrade

I believe that the issue of second term let's not talk about it is only the 
congress can deal with it.
Thanks. 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Godfrey Simelane
Sent: 20 April 2010 08:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: yclsa-eom-forum
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema charged!

Chief

So  why are you concluding that he will get a second term if you say
its only the conference that can decide ? Are you THE conference chief
?

You are 100 percent correct when you say this  forum is anti-malema and
some of us are now tired of contributing any ideas since we realized
that there is a comrade here who is pushing his own personal
interest(VC). BUT again its not for you to tell us what the conference
is going to decide.



>>> <[email protected]> 4/19/2010 5:02 PM >>>


I have raised teh issue of anti-Malema sentiments that have become a
norm
with this forum. One expects to find such boring articles from fellow
comrades in the forum who have become the obvious proponents of hatred
against Cde. Julius.

We heard the whole thing about the President of the ANC Youth League
being
charged. Can w get original ideas, than your media stories. Is that how
we
hace degenerated into the culture of celebrating each other's failures
or
when fellow comrades are lampooned in the media? Have we ran out of
subjects for discssions? Have we not have enough Eastern Europen
discussioin and quotes on communism and the likes? Clearly the
revolution
is becoming a joke.

We have indeed become an anti-Malema forum and I am hoping, together
with
those who are scared to speak on the anti-Malema forum, that this
behaviour stops.
None of those who have the energy to send bile here dare speak on the
failing SAMWU-SALGA talks, which should at least make us reflect on
being
a worker in the Zuma-led SA, possibly comparing it to the Mbeki era.
Perhaos people can still send such articles from their favourite
newspapers.

The fact is, whether comrades here push the anti-malema nonsense or
not,
he is not going anywhere and even the DC won't expel him, as some of
you
wish so. He will even get a second term, through  being elected by the
conference, and only the conference can decide if they do not want
him.

Not any forum or media campaign.





Malema Charged2010-04-18 13:00
>
> Sabelo Ndlangisa, Piet Rampedi and George Matlala
>
> THE ANC has charged its youth leader Julius Malema with misconduct.
>
> The disciplinary process will take place at a meeting of the ruling
> party's
> top six officials at Luthuli House tomorrow.
>
> The meeting comes just days after ANC secretary-general Gwede
Mantashe
> served Malema with a letter notifying him of pending -disciplinary
action
> against him.
>
> In the letter Mantashe apparently expressed the ruling party's
displeasure
> at Malema's threat to continue singing the song Dubul'ibhunu -
albeit in a
> revised form - and for kicking out BBC journalist Jonah Fisher from
an
> ANCYL
> press -conference earlier this month.
>
> Several ANCYL leaders confirmed the existence of the letter and a
text
> message that youth league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu sent to the
league's
> provincial leaders informing them that the ANC had charged Malema
with
> ill-discipline.
>
> In the text Shivambu also called on -provincial leaders to issue
> statements
> to local media in support of Malema.
>
> "ANC outgoing secretary-general Gwede Mantashe has written a letter
to ANC
> Youth League president charging him with ill-discipline for speaking
on
> behalf of the youth league on revolutionary songs, expression of
shock
> with
> the public condemnation and the BBC journalist incident. Provinces
are
> requested to release statements in defence of the president.
>
> Please target your local media and forward all statements to
> [email protected]. Floyd," the text says.
>
> Yesterday Shivambu denied any knowledge of Malema being charged. He
> confirmed the existence of the text message but denied that it came
from
> him.
>
> He said he received it from SACP spokesperson Malesela Maleka.
Shivambu
> then
> paused briefly and asked someone driving in the same car with him
whether
> he
> should confirm the charges.
>
> The
 voice of a male could be heard -saying, "No! Do not confirm
it."
>
> Shivambu then added: "The president does not know, as well, about
that."
>
> A source in the Eastern Cape ANCYL confirmed that Malema had been
charged
> and that Shivambu had sent the message.
>
> Other ANCYL leaders from the Free State and Limpopo also confirmed
it.
>
> Last week Mantashe, ANC treasurer-general Mathews Phosa and
President
> Jacob
> Zuma publicly condemned -Malema's behaviour.
>
> Zuma and Mantashe implied that there would be sanctions and
consequences
> for
> Malema's "alien" behaviour.
>
> After Zuma's statement Malema expressed shock that the president
had
> publicly rebuked him when there were established guidelines in the
ruling
> party on how to deal with internal squabbles.
>
> Speaking at the funeral service of former South African Congress of
Trade
> Unions leader Leslie Masina at Rhema Church in Randburg,
Johannesburg,
> yesterday, Zuma said it was the ANC, not he, that had rebuked
Malema.
>
> "If Zuma said something, don't say -Zuma said; it is the ANC. Let
us think
> before we act, particularly in public," he said.
> An ANCYL insider blamed Cosatu and some of Zuma's close lieutenants
in
> -Cabinet for putting pressure on Zuma to publicly denounce Malema.
The
> insider said the likes of Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane
- a
> close friend of Malema challenger Lehlogonolo Masoga - were
unhappy
> because
> they had lost control of Limpopo. -Masoga lodged an appeal against
the
> outcome of last week's ANCYL provincial conference, where he lost
the race
> for the league's provincial chair to Malema's ally, Frans
Moswane.
>
> "They will not succeed. Julius and -Zuma come a long way. Julius
defended
> Zuma when it was not fashionable to do so," said the source.
>
> By late Friday afternoon pro-Malema youth leaders were preparing to
defend
> him against what they see as an ANC -onslaught on their leader.
>
> One of them, KwaZulu-Natal Lower Coast regional secretary Wandile
Mkhize
> said the ruling party had no right to charge Malema because he had
spoken
> or
> acted on the league's behalf.
>
> "If the ANC is bitter with the things Julius has said they must
charge the
> youth league as an organisation. If Julius is wrong, he will be
> disciplined
> by us members of the youth league," Mkhize said.
>
> ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu would neither conform nor deny that
the
> party had charged Malema.
>
> "If he is or he is not, it is an ANC matter. It has nothing to do
with the
> press or the public. Therefore, we would not comment," Mthembu
said
> yesterday.
>
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