Botipe, Botipe, Botipe come on.

I believe you will heal with time comrades. I like it that Malema has, by
inference, invoked from the *Eastern men and the Plekhanovs* of this world.
I also know great liberation theologians who we have learned from.
Unfortunately our learning will be limited if it going to fixated in the
geographic origin of a person rather than his philosophy and what he stood
for.

Even our own ANC and its ANC Youth League that Botipe love so much are
applying the Marxist-Leninist tools of analysis. What does he make of this?
It from the *Eastern men he does not regards as his mentor. *Botipe should
not be in the Roman Catholic Church and sing the NGK hymnns, which is what
he does. I have not heard a person questioning your nationalist taste, it's
yours. The churches and religion that you follow Botipe is not nationalist,
but internationalist in a more largely *reactionary* way. If you don't know
the relevance of the thinking of Eastern men to our discourse I am
disappointed. If you still have problem with recallings and still lament
about Mbeki and not understand the relevance of the Eastern men then we have
a very serious problem. *I fully suspect, with a possible confirmation, that
you also ascribe to notion of some Eastern idealist, who promised land of
milk and honey, who misled the very same Eastern Europe you so complain. You
also ascribe to some foreign teachings that have brought us to the quagmire
that we are in in the country and the whole world.*

Mzukisi


On 4/20/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> Sabelo and your ilk,
>
>
> I am not going to discuss Plekhanov nor any Eastern European men you
> regard as your political mentors with their irrelevant thinking to ur
> politicxal discourse here.
>
> I still maintain that the ANC DC should not have sent that letter to teh
> President of the Youth League, as he ws sepaking not as an ANC NEC but as
> a member of the Youth League. To say that, doies not mean that I
> disrespect the ANC, but I am saying that letter or call for DC hearing ws
> incorrect. You are making a mistake of comparing the situation of Goniwe
> to the one of Julius, bu I see them as two different cases. With Cde.
> Julius there is no case, except to those who dislike the comrade and wish
> to see gone and soon. Your limited understanding of what I ws saying about
> SAMWU-SALGA situation has made you to make poor conclusions that I redice
> the President of both the ANC and the Republic into those two structures.
> Well, I was not, I just used the current situation as an example to say
> perhaps the forum should be looking at such things. To me, such are
> contemporary things in the land, not your communist friends and their
> quotations.
>
> Why didn't you you purge all those who are Mbeki-aloigned in SALGA as some
> hav been purged after Polokwane conference? Surely, if your understanding
> tells you that they are a problem, they should have been long re-called or
> made to walk out on their own, without waiting for next year's local
> governemnt elections.
>
> I think next time, it is important not to respond when one did not really
> understand what was said, otherwise you will continue to make the same
> mistake as is the case here. But, given the current state of politics and
> lack of political educatin in the broader MDM maybe one should not really
> be surprised with that. I hope yu are not goign to attribute my thinking
> to me undermining the intelligency of the comrades in this forum
>
> I still maintain though, that there is a strong anti-Malema campaign here,
> and I want to be told if that is just my imagination, without any
> labelling and insults.
>
> I remain a Nationalist
>
>
>
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