Botipe....Botipe....Botipe, You have shown that you are not used to discussing and deliberating issues but you are used to howling like a shebben queen puppy!
I must however excuse your obsene behaviour as we have done with malema. Just before i go i just want to highlight something to you. Before malema there was mabalula and before mbalula there was gigaba and so on and so forth. Now after malema there will be someone to lead the YL after the conference! See you there baba! On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]> wrote: > > Botipe No. > > But I laughed at this *rubbish *story. I thought you will say *bullshit is > in that trouser of yours.* > > > On 4/20/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Rubbish is what is covered by your head. I join this forum when it was >> still robust and never said I want to leave it. I will say so voluntarily >> when I want to leave. YOu hae no authority to question my partcipation >> here and should be allowed to disagree with comrades. I though you will >> understand basic democratic practices. I maintain he willbe my choice for >> President and he does not need to come to this forum to lobby the support. >> For now, people like your yourself and your handlers who hate Julius must >> learn to live with the fact that he remains the President. >> >> Even your newspaper articles that you post will nover change that as well. >> >> Your calling of Cde. Julius a boy is a sign of how this forum has >> degenarated into some anarchy and intolerance. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Botipe, >> > >> > My Chief when you open your mouth you speak rubbish! Dont speak on >> behalf >> > of the conference because you are an individual chief! >> > >> > Speak on behalf of yourself and not others. You are further wrong when >> you say that this forum is an anti-malema campaign. My chief, I believe >> that you must not drink and post comments that are of divisive nature on >> this >> > forum. >> > >> > If this forum is ant-malema why did you join it?! My chief, some of us >> > have >> > been members of the ANC and SACP for a long time so dont come here with >> > that >> > rotten tendency of undermining us by using that lame reverse psychology! >> > Are >> > we supposed to feel pity for malema? >> > >> > Chief, That boy did something wrong, let him face the consequencies. >> > Malema >> > wrote his choice of music, let him listen to it. This boy undermines the >> > president of the ANC and has defied various strict instructions from the >> > movement. Dont you see traits of arrogance within that boy?! >> > >> > We will be at the conference my chief!!! >> > >> > The ANC is not a creche, it is an organisation of grown ups! >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Godfrey Simelane >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >> >> Chief >> >> >> >> So why are you concluding that he will get a second term if you say >> >> its only the conference that can decide ? Are you THE conference chief >> >> ? >> >> >> >> You are 100 percent correct when you say this forum is anti-malema and >> >> some of us are now tired of contributing any ideas since we realized >> >> that there is a comrade here who is pushing his own personal >> >> interest(VC). BUT again its not for you to tell us what the conference >> >> is going to decide. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> 4/19/2010 5:02 PM >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have raised teh issue of anti-Malema sentiments that have become a >> >> norm >> >> with this forum. One expects to find such boring articles from fellow >> >> comrades in the forum who have become the obvious proponents of hatred >> >> against Cde. Julius. >> >> >> >> We heard the whole thing about the President of the ANC Youth League >> >> being >> >> charged. Can w get original ideas, than your media stories. Is that how >> >> we >> >> hace degenerated into the culture of celebrating each other's failures >> >> or >> >> when fellow comrades are lampooned in the media? Have we ran out of >> >> subjects for discssions? Have we not have enough Eastern Europen >> >> discussioin and quotes on communism and the likes? Clearly the >> >> revolution >> >> is becoming a joke. >> >> >> >> We have indeed become an anti-Malema forum and I am hoping, together >> >> with >> >> those who are scared to speak on the anti-Malema forum, that this >> >> behaviour stops. >> >> None of those who have the energy to send bile here dare speak on the >> >> failing SAMWU-SALGA talks, which should at least make us reflect on >> >> being >> >> a worker in the Zuma-led SA, possibly comparing it to the Mbeki era. >> >> Perhaos people can still send such articles from their favourite >> >> newspapers. >> >> >> >> The fact is, whether comrades here push the anti-malema nonsense or >> >> not, >> >> he is not going anywhere and even the DC won't expel him, as some of >> >> you >> >> wish so. He will even get a second term, through being elected by the >> >> conference, and only the conference can decide if they do not want >> >> him. >> >> >> >> Not any forum or media campaign. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Malema Charged2010-04-18 13:00 >> >> > >> >> > Sabelo Ndlangisa, Piet Rampedi and George Matlala >> >> > >> >> > THE ANC has charged its youth leader Julius Malema with misconduct. >> >> > >> >> > The disciplinary process will take place at a meeting of the ruling >> >> > party’s >> >> > top six officials at Luthuli House tomorrow. >> >> > >> >> > The meeting comes just days after ANC secretary-general Gwede >> >> Mantashe >> >> > served Malema with a letter notifying him of pending -disciplinary >> >> action >> >> > against him. >> >> > >> >> > In the letter Mantashe apparently expressed the ruling party’s >> >> displeasure >> >> > at Malema’s threat to continue singing the song Dubul’ibhunu – >> >> albeit in a >> >> > revised form – and for kicking out BBC journalist Jonah Fisher from >> >> an >> >> > ANCYL >> >> > press -conference earlier this month. >> >> > >> >> > Several ANCYL leaders confirmed the existence of the letter and a >> >> text >> >> > message that youth league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu sent to the >> >> league’s >> >> > provincial leaders informing them that the ANC had charged Malema >> >> with >> >> > ill-discipline. >> >> > >> >> > In the text Shivambu also called on -provincial leaders to issue >> >> > statements >> >> > to local media in support of Malema. >> >> > >> >> > “ANC outgoing secretary-general Gwede Mantashe has written a letter >> >> to ANC >> >> > Youth League president charging him with ill-discipline for speaking >> >> on >> >> > behalf of the youth league on revolutionary songs, expression of >> >> shock >> >> > with >> >> > the public condemnation and the BBC journalist incident. Provinces >> >> are >> >> > requested to release statements in defence of the president. >> >> > >> >> > Please target your local media and forward all statements to >> >> > [email protected]. Floyd,” the text says. >> >> > >> >> > Yesterday Shivambu denied any knowledge of Malema being charged. He >> >> > confirmed the existence of the text message but denied that it came >> >> from >> >> > him. >> >> > >> >> > He said he received it from SACP spokesperson Malesela Maleka. >> >> Shivambu >> >> > then >> >> > paused briefly and asked someone driving in the same car with him >> >> whether >> >> > he >> >> > should confirm the charges. >> >> > >> >> > The >> >> voice of a male could be heard -saying, “No! Do not confirm >> >> it.” >> >> > >> >> > Shivambu then added: “The president does not know, as well, about >> >> that.” >> >> > >> >> > A source in the Eastern Cape ANCYL confirmed that Malema had been >> >> charged >> >> > and that Shivambu had sent the message. >> >> > >> >> > Other ANCYL leaders from the Free State and Limpopo also confirmed >> >> it. >> >> > >> >> > Last week Mantashe, ANC treasurer-general Mathews Phosa and >> >> President >> >> > Jacob >> >> > Zuma publicly condemned -Malema’s behaviour. >> >> > >> >> > Zuma and Mantashe implied that there would be sanctions and >> >> consequences >> >> > for >> >> > Malema’s “alien” behaviour. >> >> > >> >> > After Zuma’s statement Malema expressed shock that the president >> >> had >> >> > publicly rebuked him when there were established guidelines in the >> >> ruling >> >> > party on how to deal with internal squabbles. >> >> > >> >> > Speaking at the funeral service of former South African Congress of >> >> Trade >> >> > Unions leader Leslie Masina at Rhema Church in Randburg, >> >> Johannesburg, >> >> > yesterday, Zuma said it was the ANC, not he, that had rebuked >> >> Malema. >> >> > >> >> > “If Zuma said something, don’t say -Zuma said; it is the ANC. Let >> >> us think >> >> > before we act, particularly in public,” he said. >> >> > An ANCYL insider blamed Cosatu and some of Zuma’s close lieutenants >> >> in >> >> > -Cabinet for putting pressure on Zuma to publicly denounce Malema. >> >> The >> >> > insider said the likes of Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane >> >> – a >> >> > close friend of Malema challenger Lehlogonolo Masoga – were >> >> unhappy >> >> > because >> >> > they had lost control of Limpopo. -Masoga lodged an appeal against >> >> the >> >> > outcome of last week’s ANCYL provincial conference, where he lost >> >> the race >> >> > for the league’s provincial chair to Malema’s ally, Frans >> >> Moswane. >> >> > >> >> > “They will not succeed. Julius and -Zuma come a long way. Julius >> >> defended >> >> > Zuma when it was not fashionable to do so,” said the source. >> >> > >> >> > By late Friday afternoon pro-Malema youth leaders were preparing to >> >> defend >> >> > him against what they see as an ANC -onslaught on their leader. >> >> > >> >> > One of them, KwaZulu-Natal Lower Coast regional secretary Wandile >> >> Mkhize >> >> > said the ruling party had no right to charge Malema because he had >> >> spoken >> >> > or >> >> > acted on the league’s behalf. >> >> > >> >> > “If the ANC is bitter with the things Julius has said they must >> >> charge the >> >> > youth league as an organisation. If Julius is wrong, he will be >> >> > disciplined >> >> > by us members of the youth league,” Mkhize said. >> >> > >> >> > ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu would neither conform nor deny that >> >> the >> >> > party had charged Malema. >> >> > >> >> > “If he is or he is not, it is an ANC matter. It has nothing to do >> >> with the >> >> > press or the public. 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