Botipe No. But I laughed at this *rubbish *story. I thought you will say *bullshit is in that trouser of yours.*
On 4/20/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Rubbish is what is covered by your head. I join this forum when it was > still robust and never said I want to leave it. I will say so voluntarily > when I want to leave. YOu hae no authority to question my partcipation > here and should be allowed to disagree with comrades. I though you will > understand basic democratic practices. I maintain he willbe my choice for > President and he does not need to come to this forum to lobby the support. > For now, people like your yourself and your handlers who hate Julius must > learn to live with the fact that he remains the President. > > Even your newspaper articles that you post will nover change that as well. > > Your calling of Cde. Julius a boy is a sign of how this forum has > degenarated into some anarchy and intolerance. > > > > > > > Botipe, > > > > My Chief when you open your mouth you speak rubbish! Dont speak on behalf > > of the conference because you are an individual chief! > > > > Speak on behalf of yourself and not others. You are further wrong when > you say that this forum is an anti-malema campaign. My chief, I believe > that you must not drink and post comments that are of divisive nature on > this > > forum. > > > > If this forum is ant-malema why did you join it?! My chief, some of us > > have > > been members of the ANC and SACP for a long time so dont come here with > > that > > rotten tendency of undermining us by using that lame reverse psychology! > > Are > > we supposed to feel pity for malema? > > > > Chief, That boy did something wrong, let him face the consequencies. > > Malema > > wrote his choice of music, let him listen to it. This boy undermines the > > president of the ANC and has defied various strict instructions from the > > movement. Dont you see traits of arrogance within that boy?! > > > > We will be at the conference my chief!!! > > > > The ANC is not a creche, it is an organisation of grown ups! > > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Godfrey Simelane > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Chief > >> > >> So why are you concluding that he will get a second term if you say > >> its only the conference that can decide ? Are you THE conference chief > >> ? > >> > >> You are 100 percent correct when you say this forum is anti-malema and > >> some of us are now tired of contributing any ideas since we realized > >> that there is a comrade here who is pushing his own personal > >> interest(VC). BUT again its not for you to tell us what the conference > >> is going to decide. > >> > >> > >> > >> >>> <[email protected]> 4/19/2010 5:02 PM >>> > >> > >> > >> I have raised teh issue of anti-Malema sentiments that have become a > >> norm > >> with this forum. One expects to find such boring articles from fellow > >> comrades in the forum who have become the obvious proponents of hatred > >> against Cde. Julius. > >> > >> We heard the whole thing about the President of the ANC Youth League > >> being > >> charged. Can w get original ideas, than your media stories. Is that how > >> we > >> hace degenerated into the culture of celebrating each other's failures > >> or > >> when fellow comrades are lampooned in the media? Have we ran out of > >> subjects for discssions? Have we not have enough Eastern Europen > >> discussioin and quotes on communism and the likes? Clearly the > >> revolution > >> is becoming a joke. > >> > >> We have indeed become an anti-Malema forum and I am hoping, together > >> with > >> those who are scared to speak on the anti-Malema forum, that this > >> behaviour stops. > >> None of those who have the energy to send bile here dare speak on the > >> failing SAMWU-SALGA talks, which should at least make us reflect on > >> being > >> a worker in the Zuma-led SA, possibly comparing it to the Mbeki era. > >> Perhaos people can still send such articles from their favourite > >> newspapers. > >> > >> The fact is, whether comrades here push the anti-malema nonsense or > >> not, > >> he is not going anywhere and even the DC won't expel him, as some of > >> you > >> wish so. He will even get a second term, through being elected by the > >> conference, and only the conference can decide if they do not want > >> him. > >> > >> Not any forum or media campaign. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Malema Charged2010-04-18 13:00 > >> > > >> > Sabelo Ndlangisa, Piet Rampedi and George Matlala > >> > > >> > THE ANC has charged its youth leader Julius Malema with misconduct. > >> > > >> > The disciplinary process will take place at a meeting of the ruling > >> > party’s > >> > top six officials at Luthuli House tomorrow. > >> > > >> > The meeting comes just days after ANC secretary-general Gwede > >> Mantashe > >> > served Malema with a letter notifying him of pending -disciplinary > >> action > >> > against him. > >> > > >> > In the letter Mantashe apparently expressed the ruling party’s > >> displeasure > >> > at Malema’s threat to continue singing the song Dubul’ibhunu – > >> albeit in a > >> > revised form – and for kicking out BBC journalist Jonah Fisher from > >> an > >> > ANCYL > >> > press -conference earlier this month. > >> > > >> > Several ANCYL leaders confirmed the existence of the letter and a > >> text > >> > message that youth league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu sent to the > >> league’s > >> > provincial leaders informing them that the ANC had charged Malema > >> with > >> > ill-discipline. > >> > > >> > In the text Shivambu also called on -provincial leaders to issue > >> > statements > >> > to local media in support of Malema. > >> > > >> > “ANC outgoing secretary-general Gwede Mantashe has written a letter > >> to ANC > >> > Youth League president charging him with ill-discipline for speaking > >> on > >> > behalf of the youth league on revolutionary songs, expression of > >> shock > >> > with > >> > the public condemnation and the BBC journalist incident. Provinces > >> are > >> > requested to release statements in defence of the president. > >> > > >> > Please target your local media and forward all statements to > >> > [email protected]. Floyd,” the text says. > >> > > >> > Yesterday Shivambu denied any knowledge of Malema being charged. He > >> > confirmed the existence of the text message but denied that it came > >> from > >> > him. > >> > > >> > He said he received it from SACP spokesperson Malesela Maleka. > >> Shivambu > >> > then > >> > paused briefly and asked someone driving in the same car with him > >> whether > >> > he > >> > should confirm the charges. > >> > > >> > The > >> voice of a male could be heard -saying, “No! Do not confirm > >> it.” > >> > > >> > Shivambu then added: “The president does not know, as well, about > >> that.” > >> > > >> > A source in the Eastern Cape ANCYL confirmed that Malema had been > >> charged > >> > and that Shivambu had sent the message. > >> > > >> > Other ANCYL leaders from the Free State and Limpopo also confirmed > >> it. > >> > > >> > Last week Mantashe, ANC treasurer-general Mathews Phosa and > >> President > >> > Jacob > >> > Zuma publicly condemned -Malema’s behaviour. > >> > > >> > Zuma and Mantashe implied that there would be sanctions and > >> consequences > >> > for > >> > Malema’s “alien” behaviour. > >> > > >> > After Zuma’s statement Malema expressed shock that the president > >> had > >> > publicly rebuked him when there were established guidelines in the > >> ruling > >> > party on how to deal with internal squabbles. > >> > > >> > Speaking at the funeral service of former South African Congress of > >> Trade > >> > Unions leader Leslie Masina at Rhema Church in Randburg, > >> Johannesburg, > >> > yesterday, Zuma said it was the ANC, not he, that had rebuked > >> Malema. > >> > > >> > “If Zuma said something, don’t say -Zuma said; it is the ANC. Let > >> us think > >> > before we act, particularly in public,” he said. > >> > An ANCYL insider blamed Cosatu and some of Zuma’s close lieutenants > >> in > >> > -Cabinet for putting pressure on Zuma to publicly denounce Malema. > >> The > >> > insider said the likes of Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane > >> – a > >> > close friend of Malema challenger Lehlogonolo Masoga – were > >> unhappy > >> > because > >> > they had lost control of Limpopo. -Masoga lodged an appeal against > >> the > >> > outcome of last week’s ANCYL provincial conference, where he lost > >> the race > >> > for the league’s provincial chair to Malema’s ally, Frans > >> Moswane. > >> > > >> > “They will not succeed. Julius and -Zuma come a long way. Julius > >> defended > >> > Zuma when it was not fashionable to do so,” said the source. > >> > > >> > By late Friday afternoon pro-Malema youth leaders were preparing to > >> defend > >> > him against what they see as an ANC -onslaught on their leader. > >> > > >> > One of them, KwaZulu-Natal Lower Coast regional secretary Wandile > >> Mkhize > >> > said the ruling party had no right to charge Malema because he had > >> spoken > >> > or > >> > acted on the league’s behalf. > >> > > >> > “If the ANC is bitter with the things Julius has said they must > >> charge the > >> > youth league as an organisation. If Julius is wrong, he will be > >> > disciplined > >> > by us members of the youth league,” Mkhize said. > >> > > >> > ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu would neither conform nor deny that > >> the > >> > party had charged Malema. > >> > > >> > “If he is or he is not, it is an ANC matter. It has nothing to do > >> with the > >> > press or the public. 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