Wow

Peace pipe at last. Comrades l posted de Klerks speech earlier can we kindly
look into it.

THOMO

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ndlazilwana, Lazola <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I recieved it as such  I hope Cde Thobs you are objective not subjective.
>
> Thank you Domza
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Thobela Mahijana
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2011 4:08 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA National Committee Statement, 31
> May 2011
>
>   IM TAKING MY HAT OFF VC, HOPE CDE LAZOLA RECIEVE THIS MESSAGE IN THE
> SAME SPIRIT ITS WRRITEN.
>
> AMANDLAAAA!!!!
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Comrade Lazola I can see that you are still sore.
>>
>> I am sorry for that. I was in the wrong for calling you a snake in the
>> grass.
>>
>> You were also in the wrong for publicly contradicting your leadership just
>> after they had spoken.
>>
>> I suggest that we call it quits and "cease fire", since we have been
>> advised to do so.
>>
>> In response to your latest message, please check the original YCLSA
>> statement. It does not denounce COSATU, NUMSA or SADTU. It says "certain
>> individuals within COSATU and two of its major affiliates, NUMSA and SADTU".
>>
>> The YCL does not appear to be in a hurry to name all these individuals,
>> but I am sure you have by now seen their latest press release, which names
>> one KZN comrade and indicates that one of the other alleged factionalists
>> can be found on the front page of today's Business Day.
>>
>> I liked the quotation Cde Sandile pasted in from the Communist Manifesto:
>>
>> *"The Communists have over the great mass of the proletariat the
>> advantage of clearly understanding the line of march, the conditions, and
>> the ultimate general results of the proletarian movement."*
>>
>> The Party is never against the trade unionists. The trade unionists should
>> therefore not try to second-guess the Party. If the Party has spoken, they
>> should accept it and not take public pot-shots at the Party for years at a
>> time because their ideas did not prevail for the time being in the Party's
>> Congress.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> VC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2011 14:51, Ndlazilwana, Lazola <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Cdes I am really dissapointed with what is going on here. I said this
>>> yesterday that I'm dissapointed by the YCLSA statement on attacking COSATU
>>> and NUMSA in particular. Cde Domza decided to insult me without checking
>>> with me why I have that feeling and share it with a group. The YCLSA
>>> secretary last year in ANCYL NGC  was booed by the delegates and as a
>>> delegate on that NGC I was dissapointed by such a behaviour but what has
>>> inspired me after is a paper which was published by Umsebenzi which was
>>> prepared by the Sec to deliver there. That paper says " We are not your
>>> enemies but the enemies of your enemies" now since when did that change from
>>> the YCLSA, since when where genuine issues are raised amounts to attacks,
>>> since when when comrades differs from one another amounts to campaigns? Are
>>> we the organisation to agree or to debate and accept different views? When
>>> Cde Masondo was opening the Mafikeng Congress said these are IFP tendencies
>>> then I was distrubed by such a statement but now this is happening and I see
>>> as such. May I be told NUMSA and COSATU are YCLSA enemies or SACP enemies or
>>> they are the enemies of SACP and YCLSA enemies. If I may be told I will
>>> appreciate it.
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bhekinkosi Williamson
>>> Mvovo
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:37 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA National Committee Statement, 31
>>> May 2011
>>>
>>>   Cease fire, cease fire, cease fire, cease fire!!!!!!!!!!  Do not fire
>>> at your own forces, cease fire, do not shoot friendly forces, cease fire!!!
>>>
>>>
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