----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] A suggestion:
why not create a separate Vine sub-list?
Hmmm... I hear your plea.
Here's the way I see it (what I like to think is a biased - I love this
group / unbiased - I respect both aspects as mentioned / historical
- been running it for a few years now / experiential - I'm active in
several of these groups - point of view), Barry:
When I assumed the wheel here, the List was strictly "Zappa discussion" -
there were other eGroups out there that catered to the "tape trading" crowd.
I'd participate on the fringes, as I do collect FZ music, but stayed out of
the action because - well - I have more FZ than I can listen to. I wanted to
have dialog with other Zappa fans...
I watched with interest how the other FZ groups out there (esp at yahoo)
sorta petered out after a little while. It seemed to me that those fans
weren't disappearing, just the organized groups... And I figured that the
"vine" concept, while allowing a spot for the 'displaced' collector, would not
interfere that much in the flow of conversation - which, historically,
tends to be "spotty" with short bursts of activity followed by long stretches
of inactivity.
In other words, I perceived a need to which I thought the List should
cater. One of my concerns was that soon the topic of conversation would be
vines and only vines. I haven't found this to be the case, tho I agree that
the VO's do account for the majority of the "activity" around here, and they
do tend to fly fast and furious, and they probably do contribute to posts
being "lost in the shuffle". But frankly, segregating the two "camps" - IMO -
would simply create two groups that would not come close to equaling the sum
of their respective parts...
Honestly, inactivity would occur in both arenas. One only need to check
out the archive history of the other groups out there, to get a feel for how
groups form and eventually die (I will refrain from citing any
examples).
For me, the answer to your plea is - discuss more. Why can't a viner
respond to a vine post, or even create a new post, with a personal review of
what they've experienced? Why couldn't a vine post prompt a discussion about a
certain rhythm section, or compare eras? No, I don't think curtailing the
vines is the answer to the lop-sided nature of our message archives; want more
discussion? Discuss more.
Warmest Regards,
SOFA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:31
AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] A suggestion:
why not create a separate Vine sub-list?
---- myrtleedop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrijft:
>
...in order to free bandwidth for the actual "discussion" (which is the
> announced purpose of the list).
> The vine threads, as
exciting as these might be, eat up incredible
> amounts of space it
seems to me! And no actual discussion seems to ever
> go anywhere
because the threads go down so fast and thus fail to
> probably be
even seen...
I agree!
I joined this list to get the latest FZ
news. Everyone should enjoy their trading etc. but a separate list just for
the discussion of the music would be very welcome.
best
wishes,
Marco
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