Hello, Even though I stopped learning ZB a few weeks ago, I'm still interested in that extension. I'm kind of fed up with learning an huge amount of algorithms without always understanding what I do. But I'm really interested in finding new ones either by myself or with the help of a computer.
If you want some help, I could help for exemple on one of the orientation case (maybe split it with someone if anybody is interested). I'm rather fond of the Double-Sune orientation so if there is any case you prefer to have first (since I'm probably not gonna use this in competition), just tell me which one :-) Gilles. 2005/12/11, cmhardw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hey everyone, > > I've been talking to Richard a lot lately, and he really inspired me > about one thing. > > I think ZBLL can be extremely fast, but we have to set a higher > standard for it. We have to set the standard of sub-3 average for > every alg (just straight execution) and that would make the LL have a > sub-4 solve time with recognition also (in theory). > > Well I don't think even a few people could do this in a short amount > of time, so here is the suggestion. ZB doesn't have much popularity > yet, since it isn't fast. Sadly it will take that to get many to > notice. Also, why learn ZBLL quickly now and redo 300 algs later when > it does gain some popularity after people have learned it, when we can > all work on generating algs (with the sub-3 requirement) and make it > fast now? > > It would work like this, learn ZBLL in any way you want, and generate > and save all algs for that path. If you are learning algs that have > already been generated, then learn the algs you want from a webpage or > from someone, but generate other cases only to make them fast, learn > them later. > > We could each take a COLL case and generate algs and spend a few weeks > or maybe a month on optimizing each case to sub-3. > > After that we can meet here and post the best ones on a central > website (perhaps Ron will lend us a space in the Algs section). > > I think if we make ZBLL fast right from the start, then we can learn > the fastest ZBLL right from the start and have a chance for the method > to be fast. > > I know a lot of you guys are very serious about the method, so I ask: > who is willing to help me make a sub-3 requirement for ZBLL a reality? > I can start with my slowest T algs (some are already easily sub-3) > and work from there. Again you don't have to learn the algs you > generate, learn however you want, but spend time each day helping > optimize the ZBLL. > > I think with all of us it will still not be much man power, but it > will be enough to make a start. > > I will now require sub-3 for all algs, and try to spend a few weeks to > 1 month on each COLL case to really get this right. I will stop > learning until my T and U algs are fully sub-3 optimized. > > Also if sub-3 is just not possible, let's find the true limit, and get > under that. > > ZB can still have a change, but we have to have a higher standard than > sub-4. I'm already convinced that a sub-4 ZBLL stands no change > whatsoever against Fridrich. > > I'm going to start on my worst T cases and go from there. Is anyone > else interested? Let me know, I would really love for all of us to > really take this method seriously (we already do, but I think a new > level of dedication will be required for ZB to be fast) and move this > method into being a top level method? > > Chris > > > > > > > ________________________________ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "zbmethod" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > ________________________________ > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zbmethod/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/