mashallah very good and inspiring explanation. will remember you in my dua.
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alex Gretlein <gretl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wa alaikum salam, > 1. The chief developer of the application is a Persian speaker, and > zekr is an excellent approximation in most Western languages of the > sound of the *Persian* word ذكر (IPA representation /zekɾ/) which is > descended from the Arabic word much as the English noun rock is > descended from the Vulgar Latin word "rocca," itself probably > descended from an unknown Celtic predecessor. > > 2. To an English speaker thikr looks like a transliteration of ثكر > (compare the word "thicker") and it is more common to use dh to > represent the sound of ذ (cf. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabic). They differ in > that dhal is one of the letters of jahr and thaa' is one of the > letters of hams. Hence the use of the voiced Roman "d" over the > voiceless "t". In phonetic terms the first is a voiced and the second > a voiceless dental fricative, represented by IPA /ð/ and /θ/ > respectively. Of course English has the unfortunate counter-example of > "this" which I guess proves me wrong, but if we have to assign "th" to > either ذ or ث, then I think anyone would chose the latter. > > So I think the founder should be free to name the program in his own > language, though if anyone using Zekr to read, say, verse 9 of Sura > al-Jum`uah were to say "zekr" instead of "dhikr" they would definitely > be in the wrong. > > Remember me in your duas. > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Rocca <iamro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Salam brothers, > > > > Your program is such a beautiful and amazing program. I really love > > how well-done it is, the speed, the functionality, the ability to > > browse or search and find things so quickly. It's just amazing, and I > > really do love it. However, I must say that the pronunciation of the > > actual Arabic word ذكر is not with the letter Z at all, but with the > > letters TH. I partially think that it was the mistake of Arabs a long > > time ago, those who delivered the message of Islam to their brothers > > in Asia, that they did not emphasize how the words of the Quran should > > really be pronounced. For example, Dr. Zakir Naik should not be > > written like that at all, according to how the name looks like in Urdu > > or Arabic, but it should be written as Dr. Thakir Naeek. Similarly, > > ذكر should not be written as Zekr, but Thikr. And it does make quite a > > remarkable difference in some Arabic words, if someone pronounces that > > Thal ذ as Zein ز. > > > > I hope that my message will make sense to you, and you can consult any > > number of scholars that you like to double check that all this is > > true. I realize that this entails perhaps a lot of changes, including > > the domain names and all, and it is up to you. I just think that the > > program and its message would be that much more beautiful if inspires > > the non-Arabs to pronounce the words and letters of the Quran as they > > are supposed to be pronounced. > > > > God bless. > > > > Warm regards, > > Rocca > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "zekr" group. > > To post to this group, send email to z...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <zekr%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/zekr?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "zekr" group. > To post to this group, send email to z...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <zekr%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/zekr?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "zekr" group. To post to this group, send email to z...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to zekr+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/zekr?hl=en.