mashallah very good and inspiring explanation. will remember you in my dua.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Alex Gretlein <gretl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wa alaikum salam,
> 1. The chief developer of the application is a Persian speaker, and
> zekr is an excellent approximation in most Western languages of the
> sound of the *Persian* word ذكر (IPA representation /zekɾ/) which is
> descended from the Arabic word much as the English noun rock is
> descended from the Vulgar Latin word "rocca," itself probably
> descended from an unknown Celtic predecessor.
>
> 2. To an English speaker thikr looks like a transliteration of ثكر
> (compare the word "thicker") and it is more common to use dh to
> represent the sound of ذ (cf.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabic). They differ in
> that dhal is one of the letters of jahr and thaa' is one of the
> letters of hams. Hence the use of the voiced Roman "d" over the
> voiceless "t". In phonetic terms the first is a voiced and the second
> a voiceless dental fricative, represented by IPA /ð/ and /θ/
> respectively. Of course English has the unfortunate counter-example of
> "this" which I guess proves me wrong, but if we have to assign "th" to
> either ذ or ث, then I think anyone would chose the latter.
>
> So I think the founder should be free to name the program in his own
> language, though if anyone using Zekr to read, say, verse 9 of Sura
> al-Jum`uah were to say "zekr" instead of "dhikr" they would definitely
> be in the wrong.
>
> Remember me in your duas.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Rocca <iamro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Salam brothers,
> >
> > Your program is such a beautiful and amazing program. I really love
> > how well-done it is, the speed, the functionality, the ability to
> > browse or search and find things so quickly. It's just amazing, and I
> > really do love it. However, I must say that the pronunciation of the
> > actual Arabic word ذكر is not with the letter Z at all, but with the
> > letters TH. I partially think that it was the mistake of Arabs a long
> > time ago, those who delivered the message of Islam to their brothers
> > in Asia, that they did not emphasize how the words of the Quran should
> > really be pronounced. For example, Dr. Zakir Naik should not be
> > written like that at all, according to how the name looks like in Urdu
> > or Arabic, but it should be written as Dr. Thakir Naeek. Similarly,
> > ذكر should not be written as Zekr, but Thikr. And it does make quite a
> > remarkable difference in some Arabic words, if someone pronounces that
> > Thal ذ as Zein ز.
> >
> > I hope that my message will make sense to you, and you can consult any
> > number of scholars that you like to double check that all this is
> > true. I realize that this entails perhaps a lot of changes, including
> > the domain names and all, and it is up to you. I just think that the
> > program and its message would be that much more beautiful if inspires
> > the non-Arabs to pronounce the words and letters of the Quran as they
> > are supposed to be pronounced.
> >
> > God bless.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Rocca
> >
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