--- In [email protected], "rbs000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "mtpathy" <leafj0y@> wrote:
> >
> > when i sit and look at a blank wall, it is only a blank wall 
> > that should be seen, but instead i see thoughts and images, 
> > often times as if they were projected onto the wall by 
> > a movie projector.
> > 
> > when i look at clouds in the sky, its clouds that should be seen
> > but instead i see fishes and ducks, lawnmowers mowing down 
dragons.
> > 
> > i'm starting to learn how to see the wall, and the cloud more and 
> > my inward projection onto them less.
> > 
> > is this the correct course of focus.
> > 
> > learning to differentiate between thoughts in my head and the 
world
> > around me, so that one doesn't project onto the other?
> >
> 
> Sure, why not? You're learning about how the mind works within
> experience.  The next question then would be, when there is stress 
of
> one kind or another, in what way are thoughts involved?  In what way
> are they not involved?  What is the cause of this stress?  In the
> Buddhist teachings, the guidelines to work with are to look and see
> where craving is involved, where clinging is involved, where notions
> of self are involved.
> 
> That may not be pure enough "just-sit Zen" for some, but I feel a
> rigid, almost dogmatic, stance in that regard is not necessary and 
may
> even be a waste of natural intuition.   
> 
> Ian
>


mind walls... thats reminded me of a book that i read on a regular
basis called The Zen Teachings of Bodhidharma.
"walls of emptiness connect all opposites".
im not intrested in traditions or religions, the more i practice 
this the more i realise that it doesn't belong to any tradition or
religion.
i do agree with what your saying, integrating your realisations while
sitting into your daily life while living is key.
my first post was just a realisation i had, i wasn't sure how welcom-
ed it would be to post it, but i thought i would anyways, good to know
that people actually got my meaning behind it.




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