:-) Ah, where does this impluse to make unsupportable generalizations 
come from?  

So Pascal, how many Zen centers have you personally practiced at, and 
how many Zen teachers have you personally received instruction from?


> I have been reading this old thread, and I have to agree with it to 
some degree.
> Without the 1960s drug culture, Zen would never have gotten a 
foothold here in America.
> It is very telling that the various Zen masters that are around are 
hardly more than bullshit artists. I was reading some Brad Warner 
stuff, and this guy has to be the epitome of bullshit.
> So, while I believe that meditation is good, and I enjoy reading 
the old Zen books, I think most of it is smoke and mirrors here in 
> Pascal

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