Thank you, Bill, for your explanations and clarifications. I do like the Zen simile of floating-thoughts and the knocking-visitor. And, yes, I will keep sitting, again and again and again... Sean
----- Original Message ---- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:01:58 PM Subject: RE: [Zen] zazen Sean, I think the fundamental meditation practices of both zen and Vispassana Buddhism are the same. There is a zen saying that when you're meditating and thoughts appear, you should treat them like you would treat a visitor knocking on your door while you are busy doing some important task. You should answer the door and acknowledge the visitor, tell him that you are busy right now but assure him that he is welcome to come back later - but above all, no matter how tempting, you DO NOT invite them in for tea and conversation... ...Bill! .