I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about sex and zen, and in 
fact think that applies to lots of other areas.

This is why I differentiate between Zen Buddhism (a religion) and zen 
(what you have referred to as 'True Zen').


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeni Jeni,
> One can be enlightened at any moment, in fact there is always  
> enlightenment, its just a matter of realizing it, of admitting it. 
> I indicated in my previous response to you sexual energy is 
> chi and sex can certainly intensify one's chi. While orgasms are  
> certainly beneficial on their own, even better is to use the 
> chi to purify the entire being by moving it through the energy 
> using techniques such as Tantra teach.
> I'm glad you have brought up the subject of sex here as many Zen  
> practitioners are rather prudish about sex. That is one major  
> criticism I have of most Zen teaching which originates with the 
> idea of celibate monks and nuns trying to ignore a natural part of  
> their being. Most Zen sects consider sex a distraction at best, 
> for many it borders on the sinful. True Zen makes no such 
> however and accepts sex as part of life just like anything else, 
> uses it like everything else on the path to enlightenment.
> Edgar
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:13 AM, Jeni Jeni wrote:
> > Pole dancing is very popular and I think you can really feel 
> > Chi when you are grinding against a pole. The exercise is 
> > Does orgasm count as a moment of enlightenment?
> >
> >


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