Hi Edgar-

Hope all is well with you :)

You will probably like my reply to Mike - I threw in some quotes by
old Chinese masters. Come to think of it, the Chinese approach
(interpretation?) to zen seems to work best for me. At least according
to my little book. It is sayings of old Chinese masters who lived
during the 8th through the 14th century. They are from standard
collections in the zen portion of the Chinese Buddhist canon. I think
Cleary's translations are marvelous. Also, if you haven't read it
already you might really like

Zen and Zen Classics
selections from R.H. Blyth
compiled by Frederick Frank

This is my favorite on Japanese zen.

Nature, whether it be thunderstorms, sunrises, the ocean, mountains,
animals, or what have you, always provide me with incredible zen!
People laugh at me, but my dog is one of my best teachers. He's always
completely in the moment and giving himself 100% to whatever he is
doing at the time, and when it's over, it's over, he lets go.

All the best,
Margie (roloro1557)

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Margie,
> I would agree with your post. I lived in Japan for 3 years and did  
> plenty of sitting, but my path was facilitated much more walking the  
> mountains with the yamabushi and in various other non-sitting events  
> interacting with various enlightened spirits.
> Osho's quote below is spot on and is what I've tried to say here  
> before. The only way to understand Zen is to understand that  
> everything in daily life is meditation. People who do a little zazen  
> and then come back to daily life and are no longer mindfully  
> meditating as they go about their daily lives have little chance of  
> realization. I have nothing against zazen, only the notion that it is  
> at all necessary, or that's all one has to do. Not so.
> BTW I also had a lightening experience once when I was hiking in the  
> mountains when lightening struck the ridge right beside me. It sure  
> knocked me out of myself alright, but unfortunately I also had a  
> splitting headache for the rest of the day. :-)
> And like Neitszche at Alta Plana, some of my best Zen experiences  
> have been on mountains above the lake during thunderstorms.
> Best,
> Edgar


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