Welcome Margie.  My name is Chris and I am a backsliding 
practitioner.  I have been practicing on and off for the past 20 
years.  It seems that I can maintain the discipline for a good 
practice only for short periods of time.  I hope to one day shed my 
love of my material belongings and my trivial addictions, but for 
now, my Xbox360 and my Tivo have a hold of me. I do look forward to 
reading your posts, as well as your blog.  Thanks for posing. 

Edgar, 
       Whose time is being "wasted" by doing zazen for years in a 
monastery. I believe that a practitioner living in a monastary and 
devoting his/her life to a practice of living each breath in the 
present moment, if far from "wasting" their time. To each his own!
   

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Margie,
> 
> Very precise and to the point description. More evidence that 
sitting  
> in a monastery doing zazen for years is often just a waste of time.
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:37 AM, roloro1557 wrote:
> 
> > One way I can describe my experience of Satori is that it was a
> > complete obliteration of all the overlays on my consciousness:
> > language, thought, future, past, role (wife, mother, etc). Even 
my
> > body disappeared (female, sore left arm, whether I was dressed, 
etc).
> > All the overlays foisted on me by culture, other people and my 
own
> > ego-self just completely fell away in an instant. I didn't even 
know
> > I'd had Satori until years later. I knew something "big" or 
extremely
> > unusual had happened to me, but I had no words for it. I've 
never even
> > discussed it until the last few years. But at the same time I 
never
> > forgot it...I don't mean I thought about it all the time - it 
was just
> > there quietly in the background.
> >
> > After Satori the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. One 
goes
> > back to "ordinary" life, even though one's life can never be
> > "ordinary" again. It's a paradigm shift. One goes back 
to "ordinary"
> > life with one's view of life radically and irrevocably changed.
> >
> > After Satori???
> > I fixed breakfast.
> >
> > Margie (roloro1557)
> >
> >
> >
>



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