Our heart is the pureland and our body is our temple... Nothing else
> Welcome Margie. My name is Chris and I am a backsliding
> practitioner. I have been practicing on and off for the past 20
> years. It seems that I can maintain the discipline for a good
> practice only for short periods of time. I hope to one day shed my
> love of my material belongings and my trivial addictions, but for
> now, my Xbox360 and my Tivo have a hold of me. I do look forward to
> reading your posts, as well as your blog. Thanks for posing.
> Whose time is being "wasted" by doing zazen for years in a
> monastery. I believe that a practitioner living in a monastary and
> devoting his/her life to a practice of living each breath in the
> present moment, if far from "wasting" their time. To each his own!
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Margie,
> > Very precise and to the point description. More evidence that
> > in a monastery doing zazen for years is often just a waste of time.
> > Edgar
> > On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:37 AM, roloro1557 wrote:
> > > One way I can describe my experience of Satori is that it was a
> > > complete obliteration of all the overlays on my consciousness:
> > > language, thought, future, past, role (wife, mother, etc). Even
> > > body disappeared (female, sore left arm, whether I was dressed,
> > > All the overlays foisted on me by culture, other people and my
> > > ego-self just completely fell away in an instant. I didn't even
> > > I'd had Satori until years later. I knew something "big" or
> > > unusual had happened to me, but I had no words for it. I've
> never even
> > > discussed it until the last few years. But at the same time I
> > > forgot it...I don't mean I thought about it all the time - it
> was just
> > > there quietly in the background.
> > >
> > > After Satori the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. One
> > > back to "ordinary" life, even though one's life can never be
> > > "ordinary" again. It's a paradigm shift. One goes back
> to "ordinary"
> > > life with one's view of life radically and irrevocably changed.
> > >
> > > After Satori???
> > > I fixed breakfast.
> > >
> > > Margie (roloro1557)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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