Hi Anthony,

If you research, you shall find there were two cases of heart transplant, as far as I read, changed the personality of the recipient to that of the donor. :-)

But the statement above is a scientific one, which has no value in Chan. Just like your statement.

In Chan, however, it is my direct experience as well as the experience of many of my fellow practitioners, when the mind drops, the heart shines and we become one with the ONE.

Similarly, I recommend that we all sit down, shut up and stop thinking every day, same time, same place for one hour.

The truth will be unfold.  I guarantee.

Head Teacher
Order Of Buddha Heart

Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can

On 10/3/2010 4:37 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:

Thank you for interesting posts as always. We need a different points of views to avoid dullness. Yours is always refreshing, and unfortunately also controversial. The reason that in Chinese literature there is only the word 'heart', when it should mean 'mind' is that there is no Chinese equivalent of the word mind. More than a thousand years ago, when Kumarajiwa was racking his brain to translate 'citta' (Sanskrit mind), he was so smart to understand the Chinese associated thinking with the heart. That is why you always hear 'xin', 'xin', and 'xin'. That does not mean the heart has a critical function of thinking. No doubt it is a very important organ. Besides the normal function of pumping blood, it plays a critical role in every kind of 'chi' manipulation, including the Tantric 'heart chakra'. Nevertheless, the organ closest to the thinking process is the brain, not the heart. If I have a heart transplant, needless to say, I will still be called Anthony. If, on the other hand, a brain transplant? Would it be more appropriate to adopt the name Frankenstein the Second?

--- On *Sun, 3/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 /<chan.j...@gmail.com>/* wrote:

    From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com>
    Subject: [Zen] Mind
    To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 8:17 AM

    Hi DP,

    Science will tell you, there are more neuron firing to the brain from
    the stomach then the other way around. Similarly there are more
    from the sub conscience, from the heart, from other organs, from the
    entire body...

    In Chan, wisdom is not from the brain, but from the heart within.

    Whether you called it Buddhist mind, or mind, or Christian mind,
    everyone of us has gotten only one mind. And to confuse you some
    Chan does not use the word of "mind", but "heart".

    As you see, words are very confusing. Therefore we often say...

    "Chan is not to be understood, studied or mastered. Chan is to be
    practiced and experienced. And there is only one way to enter the
    experience -- to meditate." Not 10 minutes, but at least 45
    minutes to
    an hour everyday. There is nothing needs to be understood.

    There is a saying in the Zen community - sit down, shut up and stop

    Then the gate opens up.

    Bon Voyage,

-- Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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