Dear Steve, Thank you for your post. May I ask that you post more in
the future. :-)
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On 1/9/2011 8:22 AM, SteveW wrote:
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Mel <gunnar19632...@...> wrote:
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> --- On Sat, 8/1/11, Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote:
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> MEL: I'll throw the question back at you and others....what is real
exactly when all change moment by moment?
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> Anthony: I am carrying a shield that makes the question bounce back
to you again.
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> MEL: How can you hold onto what's real when each moment goes by?
With each moment passing by comes age. The snake that had shed it's
skin is not the same snake that was before, nor the pyramids and
Sphinx of Giza the same as they were those many centuries ago
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> Shield?
Hi Mel, Anthony and Whomever It May Concern. Who exactly is this
moment going by? When you recall what you regard as being the previous
moment in the series, is it not right here, right now as a memory? And
when you anticipate a future moment in the series, is it not right
here, right now as an anticipation? Who or what is it that you think
is changing? Is not this notion based upon the unfounded assumption
that you are a subject experiencing and object? One Zen person had
satori upon hearing a bell ring. "When I heard the bell ring, there
was no bell and there was no "I", there was just the ringing!" Is it
not perfectly obvious that in the actual right here, right now moment
of experience, there is just the totality of the experience, Just
This, with nothing else tacked on? As Seng T'san noted, "The object is
object for the subject and the subject is subject for the object. Know
that both rest upon one emptiness." And now that I have mentioned that
word, 'emptiness', are you going to ask what it is, where it comes
from and where it goes? "It is like an eye that sees, but cannot see
itself. It is like a sword that cuts, but cannot cut itself!"
Steve
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