Hi JM, Thanks for the question. Meditation is the best practice that I know of, but is not essential. Even being 'mindful' is not 'it' as it has it's duality in forgetfullness. If there is a way, then it has to be simple and everywhen (a nod to Steve). What do we know outside of concepts, thoughts, visualisations, tools, witnessing etc.? We are always beyond doubt existentially aware of 'I am' (a further nod to Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharal), so this is a good place to start. But ultimately, even awareness of 'I am' is a product of the mind and so we need to go further beyond that to Pure Awareness ; ) where we all share the same (Buddha) Nature and nothing really needs to be done.
Mike ________________________________ From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 2 March, 2011 0:38:16 Subject: [Zen] Realization Hi Mike, According to your witness, is there a practice/way/how to "realize"? Thanks, JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/1/2011 2:16 AM, mike brown wrote: >ED, > >Maybe, maybe not. It still stands tho that meditation is not essential >for enlightenment as it leads us away from Realisation. Therein lies the >paradox >- for most of us meditation was the way to Realisation. > >Mike > > > > ________________________________ From: ED <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 18:20:57 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Change > > > > >I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have claimed >to >have become spontaneously enlightened or were born enlightened. >--ED > >--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: >> >> Steve, >> >> ... I empathise with the Dzogchen claim that meditation is not essential >> for enlightenmentm but is useful for developing mindfullness, moral >>development, >> >> concentration etc. Only after Realisation is meditation essential for >> deepening >> >> the initial breakthrough. >> >> Mike >
