Mayka, Are you mindful 24/7?
Mike ________________________________ From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 0:20:44 Subject: Re: [Zen] Realization Mike: Even being 'mindful' is not 'it' as it has it's duality in forgetfullness Mayka: I can't see the duality of being mindful. When there is pure mindfulness there is automatically "just this". Mindfulness is full attention and awareness in the present moment. --- On Wed, 2/3/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: >From: mike brown <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Zen] Realization >To: [email protected] >Date: Wednesday, 2 March, 2011, 11:18 > > > >Hi JM, > >Thanks for the question. Meditation is the best practice that I know of, but >is >not essential. Even being 'mindful' is not 'it' as it has it's duality in >forgetfullness. If there is a way, then it has to be simple and everywhen (a >nod >to Steve). What do we know outside of concepts, thoughts, visualisations, >tools, >witnessing etc.? We are always beyond doubt existentially aware of 'I am' (a >further nod to Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharal), so this is a good >place to start. But ultimately, even awareness of 'I am' is a product of the >mind and so we need to go further beyond that to Pure Awareness ; ) where we >all >share the same (Buddha) Nature and nothing really needs to be done. > >Mike > > > > ________________________________ From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, 2 March, 2011 0:38:16 >Subject: [Zen] Realization > > >Hi Mike, > >According to your witness, is there a practice/way/how to "realize"? > >Thanks, >JM > >Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com >http://www.heartchan.org > >On 3/1/2011 2:16 AM, mike brown wrote: > >>ED, >> >>Maybe, maybe not. It still stands tho that meditation is not essential >>for enlightenment as it leads us away from Realisation. Therein lies the >>paradox >>- for most of us meditation was the way to Realisation. >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: ED <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 18:20:57 >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Change >> >> >> >> >>I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have claimed >>to >>have become spontaneously enlightened or were born enlightened. >>--ED >> >>--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>> ... I empathise with the Dzogchen claim that meditation is not essential >>> for enlightenmentm but is useful for developing mindfullness, moral >>>development, >>> >>> concentration etc. Only after Realisation is meditation essential for >>> deepening >>> >>> the initial breakthrough. >>> >>> Mike >> >
