Steve, And that is why I answered, "Awareness only" in reply to ED's previous question. 'Awareness only' isn't some samadhi trance-like state, but is exactly like "no bell, no 'I', just ringing". Things still happen, life carries on but simply that there is no I 'doing' anything (wu-wei... as opposed to woo-woo!).
Mike ________________________________ From: SteveW <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 4 March, 2011 15:21:29 Subject: [Zen] Re: What is the equivalent of 'pure awareness' in Zen? --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > > ED, > > I believe he is talking about going beyond the witness of 'I am', where the > witnessing itself has been dropped. This, btw, would be the same witness as > in > > mindfulness practice. > > Mike > > Hi Mike. The Hindu practice of Discrimination is Netti-Netti, Not this, Not this. But at some point one realizes that without objectivity, subjectivity could not be aware of itself. You are probably familiar with that Zen story about the fellow who was enlightened upon hearing a bell ring. Afterwards he explained it thus: "In the moment of hearing the bell ring, there was no bell, and there was no "I", there was just the ringing!" Steve >
