ED, That's right - no duality, no subject/object, no self/other, no good/bad, no one/many, no here/there, no now/then, etc...Bill!
--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > I asked the question, because the comparable Ramana Maharshi (or his > translator?) used the term: > > "The Self is pure awareness." http://www.sageramana.org/ > <http://www.sageramana.org/> > > > I thought it might have meant a non-dual awareness, that is, an > awareness without a sense of subject/object or of I/Me/Mine. > > --ED > > > > --- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@> wrote: > > > > > Hi ED. In my opinion, to speak of awareness can be misleading if > we do not include the objects of awareness, including "mental" > objects (Although all phenomena are mental!)such as thoughts > and feelings. > > Awareness without objects of awareness would not > be aware of being aware. Hence it would seem to not exist. We > imagine that we are body/minds that are sometimes aware and sometimes > not. > > IMO, we are Awareness that is sometimes aware of being a > particular body/mind and sometimes not. So you see that Awareness > and the objects of awareness are Not-Two. As Seng T'san noted, > "The object is object for the subject, and the subject is subject > for the object. Know that the relativity of both rest upon one > emptiness." > IMO. > Steve > > > > > > > Mike and All, > > > > What is the equivalent of 'pure awareness' in Zen? > > > > --ED > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
