ED, Think of it this way. When you're sitting/being mindful you observe thoughts and the like arise, yes? You're not your thoughts, so who observes? It is this 'witness' that Ramana Maharishi wants you to go beyond as the witnessing is still the working of the mind.
Mike ________________________________ From: ED <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 4 March, 2011 11:47:42 Subject: [Zen] Re: What is the equivalent of 'pure awareness' in Zen? Mike, I do not even know what you mean when you say "the witness of 'I am'", as I have never looked into this matter before. I tried to find information about it but failed to turn up anything. I will give it another shot. --ED --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > ED, I believe he is talking about going beyond the witness of 'I am', where the witnessing itself has been dropped. This, btw, would be the same witness as in mindfulness practice. Mike Hi Steve, I asked the question, because the comparable Ramana Maharshi (or his translator?) used the term: "The Self is pure awareness." http://www.sageramana.org/ I thought it might have meant a non-dual awareness, that is, an awareness without a sense of subject/object or of I/Me/Mine. --ED
