ED,

>Do you assert below that Zen is a mystery that cannot be probed with the 
>ordinary mind, and can only be apprehended through an experience of the state 
>of 
>kensho-satori, after an act of faith and years or decades of shikantaza?<

Zen is waking up, eating breakfast and taking a dump - no mystery at all. You 
don't need precepts. You don't need Zen Buddhism. And you don't need someone to 
explain how to do them. Ordinary mindis the way. 

Mike


      

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