Sounds good to me...Thanks!

--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Bill!,
> 
> >so that people who are practicing meditation will be able to awaken first to 
> >the 
> >fact that, whether deluded or awakened, their own minds are numinous, aware, 
> >and 
> >never dark and their nature is unchanging.' 
> >
> 
> It's been a lonely few weeks trying to explain how mindfulness is not 
> synonymous 
> with Buddha Mind, so it's a pleasure to have you aboard! Mindfulness is a 
> technique that leads us to Buddha Mind, but is not a technique only as 
> Buddha 
> Mind is able to unfold and encompass mindfulness. I found the above quote 
> while 
> researching Steve's recommendation about Chinul and find it quite instructive 
> on 
> this point. The deluded mind will use mindfulness as a technique to search 
> for 
> Buddha Mind - the awakened person has no need for employing mindfulness as 
> they 
> are always aware that there is nowhere where Buddha Mind is not. 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 31 March, 2011 11:07:49
> Subject: [Zen] Re: An Opinion of Thich Nhat Hanh
> 
>   
> When this discussion thread began I ASSUMED TNH's 'mindfulness' was the same 
> as 
> 'Buddha Mind' or 'Original Mind'. After reading some of these posts I think 
> maybe that's not a valid assumption. Now I think maybe 'mindfulness' is a 
> teaching technique to prepare you or lead you towards 'Buddha Mind'. If 
> that's 
> so then paying attention to precepts would be appropriate while practicing 
> 'mindfulness'.
> 
> Can anyone clarigy that?
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Bingo!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ED,
> > > 
> > > >Do you assert below that Zen is a mystery that cannot be probed with 
> > > >the 
> > > >ordinary mind, and can only be apprehended through an experience of the 
> >state of 
> >
> > > >kensho-satori, after an act of faith and years or decades of shikantaza?<
> > > 
> > > Zen is waking up, eating breakfast and taking a dump - no mystery at 
> > > all. You 
> >
> > > don't need precepts. You don't need Zen Buddhism. And you don't 
> > > need someone 
> >to 
> >
> > > explain how to do them. Ordinary mindis the way. 
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>




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