JMJM,

This is a GREAT question and one I'd like to expound upon.  However I don't 
have the time this morning (it's 0750 here right now).

My short answer is DEFINITELY NOT!  Zen is the antithesis of sprituality.  Zen 
is concrete and pragmatic.

I'll post a longer version of this in about 8 hours...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 
<chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning to All,
> 
> I have heard many people say, "I am spiritual but not religious."
> 
> What does "am spiritual" mean?
> 
> In your opinion, does Zen contain spirituality?
> 
> If yes, then what is spirituality?  What is a spirit? Is there such a thing?
> 
> If not, then what is Zen for?  Live a better life? If so, does it mean a 
> happier life? If so, then is happiness a spiritual state?  Is our mental 
> state a spiritual state?  Is there a difference?
> 
> When we reach samadhi, kensho, satori, etc.  is it a spiritual state?  
> Mental state?  Or just a state without label?
> 
> You could say, Zen can not be described, then I have not asked this 
> question.:-)
> 
> Thank you for your time.
> JM
> 
> -- 
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>




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