Bill, I must say your dedication is admirable.  JM

Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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On 4/6/2011 8:01 AM, Bill! wrote:

It's 10P here right now and I'm getting sleepy. Time to go to bed. I'll try to get to the longer version of this first thing tomorrow.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> JMJM,
>
> This is a GREAT question and one I'd like to expound upon. However I don't have the time this morning (it's 0750 here right now).
>
> My short answer is DEFINITELY NOT! Zen is the antithesis of sprituality. Zen is concrete and pragmatic.
>
> I'll post a longer version of this in about 8 hours...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning to All,
> >
> > I have heard many people say, "I am spiritual but not religious."
> >
> > What does "am spiritual" mean?
> >
> > In your opinion, does Zen contain spirituality?
> >
> > If yes, then what is spirituality? What is a spirit? Is there such a thing?
> >
> > If not, then what is Zen for? Live a better life? If so, does it mean a > > happier life? If so, then is happiness a spiritual state? Is our mental
> > state a spiritual state? Is there a difference?
> >
> > When we reach samadhi, kensho, satori, etc. is it a spiritual state?
> > Mental state? Or just a state without label?
> >
> > You could say, Zen can not be described, then I have not asked this
> > question.:-)
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> > JM
> >
> > --
> > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> > http://www.heartchan.org
> >
>


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