Bill, Look forward to your LONG post. In 8 hours, I will be soundly asleep. Do take your time.

Thank you for the effort.  JM

Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
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On 4/5/2011 5:54 PM, Bill! wrote:

JMJM,

This is a GREAT question and one I'd like to expound upon. However I don't have the time this morning (it's 0750 here right now).

My short answer is DEFINITELY NOT! Zen is the antithesis of sprituality. Zen is concrete and pragmatic.

I'll post a longer version of this in about 8 hours...Bill!

--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning to All,
>
> I have heard many people say, "I am spiritual but not religious."
>
> What does "am spiritual" mean?
>
> In your opinion, does Zen contain spirituality?
>
> If yes, then what is spirituality? What is a spirit? Is there such a thing?
>
> If not, then what is Zen for? Live a better life? If so, does it mean a
> happier life? If so, then is happiness a spiritual state? Is our mental
> state a spiritual state? Is there a difference?
>
> When we reach samadhi, kensho, satori, etc. is it a spiritual state?
> Mental state? Or just a state without label?
>
> You could say, Zen can not be described, then I have not asked this
> question.:-)
>
> Thank you for your time.
> JM
>
> --
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>


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