JMJM,
Don't think I am making trouble for you. I am just curious.
On your part, you have not 'conquered your terminology'
either, because you keep enhancing the 'heart' and
disparaging the 'mind'. I am wondering what your teacher
says in Chinese referring to 'heart' and 'mind'. As far as I
can see from my limited knowledge, both are referred to in
Chinese by 'xin'. In general, they are the same, but
sometimes they may mean different things. That is why I keep
asking. My question is not about terminology, but you say
you have different experiences with regard to the mind and
the heart. Can you elaborate?
Anthony
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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Subject: Re: [Zen] The Three Dimensions of Release
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Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 7:53 AM
Hi Anthony,
I understand that you trying to discuss from a logic or
definition of words. I am not saying whether I am
correct or wrong. At the beginning of my journey I am
like you. I struggle with these terms as well. As I
said, it took me six year to conquer my terminology.
Actually, all my posts are from my experience. My
experience like Daniel's youtube is center in the heart
and not in the brain. It is a whole body experience.
And this experience coincide more and more with my
Teacher's teaching as time passes.
Don't mean to confuse you. I also like to say, in my
states, there is no mind and no heart, just chi,
electricity and lights. The key point IMO, is that
state of kensho, satori, or even just Jhana can not
sustained without chi, which is labeled as vital energy
by Daniel.
Of course, my experience could also be labeled as maya
by Bill. :-)
It is not important what I say or experience. It is
only important what you experience. As you well know,
Buddha said clearly in Diamond sutra that He said NO dharma.
Best, JM
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On 4/14/2011 4:10 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JM,
What is 'mind'? What is 'heart'? What is the difference
between 'mind' and 'heart'?
Anthony
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From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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Subject: Re: [Zen] The Three Dimensions of Release
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Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 3:36 AM
Wow, Thank you ED. I have watched the first one.
HuangDi Neijing said it very clearly for 2,000
years, "Our Shen, or inner divine, requires the
support of Qi or Chi."
Personally, having a high tech BG, it took me 6
years to wake up to the fact that our Teaching is
not about our mind. It is about our entire being.
And at the center of it, is our heart.
That's my witness. Now there is someone else too.
Thank you again, ED. Lovely day today.
:-)
JM
BTW, I was just informed that our version of
Diamond Sutra is on youtube with English subtitle.
http://www.youtube.com/joycedaolian#p/u/4/ROkmtB1fB8I
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On 4/14/2011 10:25 AM, ED wrote:
Mike, two more tapes by Empty_Grace. I experience
this guy as knowing what he is talking about. JM,
he has good things to say about the Heart. --ED
The Three Dimensions of Release
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQsIFDrb4M&NR=1
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQsIFDrb4M&NR=1> Part
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4Vw54Dabw&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-4Vw54Dabw&feature=related>
Part 2
