ED,
Well, these are important questions. Thank you for giving me the
opportunity to share.
* Value is a judgment call belonging to our mind. In other words
value is in a dualistic domain.
* Diamond sutra asked us to surpass the FOUR Notions from our
mind/consciousness. The first is SELF. SELF, or ego, or I, or my
thoughts, or my judgment, or my position, or my experience, or my
education, or my golden rule, or my believe, are all like "an hour
or an inch" (Alan Watts).
* After surpassing the Four Notions, the "spirit/essence/heart/self
nature/buddha nature/Just This/awakening"
"unfold/occur/appear/surface/in sync/connect".
Buddha did not want his student to be attached to his words, that' why
he said that I said no dharma. Because awakening got to come from
within. Words are mere triggers depending on the
opportunity/context/emotions.
The more we think about the right/wrong, agree/disagree, sense/no sense,
or just what does it mean, we function deeper into our conscious mind
and become more difficult to awaken.
Heart Sutra is a good place to start. It simply said, first surpass our
five senses, then our sixth sense, which is the consciousness, our
seventh consciousness, then our eighth consciousness. We are awakened
when we surpasses all eight consciousness. Then we witness pure birghtness.
Through the practice of Heart Chan, that's our witness -- pure light --
purest form of energy -- pure chi. (Light could be difficult for
beginners. That's why we use chi instead) That's where we were all
from. Scientists call that Big Bang.
When we awaken from our delusional self, we will come to realize, that
nothing has "value". Everything is propagated by cause and effect.
Everything is relative, interdependent, co-exist, transient and impermanent.
That's why Bill labeled his awakening with his term "Just This". To me,
"Just this" is still too romantic, I call it "as is" with small cap.
Hahaha.
For your reference.
Learn the Basics of Chan Meditation...
http://www.chan-meditation.org
Chan in everyday life...
http://www.chanliving.org
To be enlightened in this life...
http://www.heartchan.org
To save our world...
http://www.universal-oneness.org
On 6/21/2011 6:10 AM, ED wrote:
JMJM,
What 'spirit'? What 'conscious mind'? What does have value? These are
assumptions and beliefs.
--ED
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
>
> Anthony, All words are just tools to wake up the spirit inside. Once
> these words are being analyzed or categorized, they no longer have any
> value, because instead of wake up the spirit, they hit upon the
> conscious mind. :-)
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