Makya, I searched again for that story on the WWW but couldn't find it. I doubt if there's a title for it. Maybe 'Nothing Special' would be a good title.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Bill: > It would be good one to write below the story you told us about. Can I copy > and put below in the zen story. By the way, is there any tittle for that > story? > Mayka > > --- On Thu, 15/9/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 15 September, 2011, 3:44 > > >  > > > > 'Doing Kindness' > > If you're doing kindness to make yourself fell good, then you have missed the > mark. > > If you're doing kindness to make others feel good, then you have missed the > mark. > > If you're doing kindness, you are closer but still have missed the mark. > > If you're just doing, then you're close to the mark. > > If life just unfolds around you, then you're very close to the mark. > > If Just THIS!, Bullseye! > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > Siska Wrote: > > "This is not to say that there is absolutely no one, on this earth, who do > > kindness just for the sake of doing it, just like eating when hungry and > > sleeping when sleepy, without identifying the kindness as something more > > special than the act of eating and sleeping. There may be. I just have not > > met any". > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Are you sure Siska you haven't met any?. Perhaps you have met and more > > than one person like that but you were unable to see any of them. And > > at this point is when the presence of the heart becomes very important. > > Amongst other things in a way the heart are the real eyes of the buddha. > > Mayka > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 13/9/11, siska_cen@ <siska_cen@> wrote: > > > > > > From: siska_cen@ <siska_cen@> > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 13:20 > > > > > > Hi Mayka, > > > > I agree there are people who serve 'selflessly' for the benefit of people. > > 'Selfless' here is in the sense where the actions are not performed for the > > benefit of oneself but others, and nothing is expected in return from > > people who receive the kindness. I believe this is what you are saying. And > > again, I agree. > > > > On the other hand, unless it is an action of an enlightened person (or in > > Zen's words perhaps of Buddha Mind), then there is still 'self' or 'ego' > > behind these 'selfless' acts. Most people still do an act of kindness with > > a purpose, for example, to see others happy. What happen if others are not > > happy? What happen if the conditions of people being helped is not improved? > > > > This is not to say that there is absolutely no one, on this earth, who do > > kindness just for the sake of doing it, just like eating when hungry and > > sleeping when sleepy, without identifying the kindness as something more > > special than the act of eating and sleeping. There may be. I just have not > > met any. > > > > Siska > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Maria Lopez > > Sender: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle > > Sent: Sep 11, 2011 15:53 > > > >  Siska: They may be a tiny minority left in the world but still there are > > people who do things for the wellbeing of life and other human fellows for > > nothing. It's empathy what leads this minority to act in that way. > > There also culutres consider as an undevelop that they also do things for > > the sake of doing it.  And there is not a catch when they do that. On > > the other side of the spectrum and Living in that "develop" societies that > > seem to go crazy in the worst way of destructive madness for all what is > > simple and beautiful and giving as a result selfish self-centered > > individuals doesn't mean that everyone is on that boat. Mayka   --- > > On Sun, 11/9/11, siska_cen@ <siska_cen@> wrote: From: siska_cen@ > > <siska_cen@> Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle To: > > [email protected] Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 4:27  Hi > > Mayka, > A high percentage of English people met, > >  they tended to be very friendly only when they're not in their own land > > or also when they want something from you. Don't we all? Each of us is > > selfish being. It's only the extend we apply it in our actions that is a > > little different. Unless we're enlightened. Siska From: Maria Lopez > > <flordeloto@> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 > > 15:07:04 +0100 (BST) To: <[email protected]> ReplyTo: > > [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme > > Vehicle  Billl: If someone from the all over the world students studying > > in England hear you about this "friendly people" may give you a good slap > > in the face to help see reality in England. American people are very > > helpful and friendly, that is a true statement. But, THE ENGLISH LIVING > > IN ENGLAND?.  I don't think so!!. A high percentage of English people > > met,  they tended to be very friendly only when they're not in their own > > land or also > > when they want something from you. . Mayka    --- On Fri, 9/9/11, > > Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: From: Bill! <BillSmart@> Subje > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
