On 7/2/2012 7:34 PM, Joe wrote:

As far as spontaneity goes -- a natural and instant response to conditions -- it doesn't always go, among people who have a leading idea, or who have what feels like any mental activity whatever.


All appearances arise effortlessly, choicelessly. Aspects of present experiencing. Any forethought or afterthought that presents, operates no differently - regardless of appearances.

Mind does not move. Even when busy in thought it is perfectly still. Those fooled by appearances attempt to use effort to still the mind, and fail to realize this.


Spontaneity of the kind worthy of the name in the Zen school is the activity and function of the awakened person. Spontaneity is not a noun, though: it is Wisdom and Compassion which are the nouns, and it is they which act spontaneously.


The 'awakened' realize this and are not caught by appearances. All minds share the same pure still nature. The 'awakened' mind recognizes this, thus realizing unconditional compassion. Not as condition or action - unlike anything that can be thought, planned, said. No need, it is an integral aspect of Buddha nature.




I don't speak of timelessness, but I point out that, in the dharma, there is no such thing as lost time, or wasted time. It's a rhetorical question, but is there any time? I'm doubtful.


Yes, no loss, no lack. Fortunately, as an appearance, 'time' it is but a fleeting temporal concern. ;)


Our karma brings us to every point, no matter how soon or tardy; such is one way to phrase it, 'nyhow. But it's certainly the way things are, no matter how we phrase it. ;-)


Pointless, this 'karma' is - until you make a point of it.

"Karma is intention" - Buddha

"Suffering is expectation" - K



--Joe

> Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
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> Likewise, just a manner of speaking.
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> Timeless spontaneity - indeed - as if it could be otherwise! ;)




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