Anthony and Kris, Buddha Nature might be 'Just THIS!' for me, but for you 'Just THIS!' is just another lopped-off finger...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > Questions of "just this" form as an aspect of the "illusion" of anything > being apart. > > Any answer formed in response to such a question, is another aspect of > the illusion. Whether this serves as a pointer to realization or not, > depends not on the nature of the answer, but on seeing the source/nature > of the question. > > K > > On 7/3/2012 7:17 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill, > > Are those visions illusions, or part of 'just this'? > > Anthony > > > > *From:* Joe <desert_woodworker@...> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 July 2012, 23:06 > > *Subject:* [Zen] Re: moments > > > > That special vision can be maintained, through a lot of zazen. It's > > easy to bring it on, and to keep it. > > > > It's only "special" because usually, if it comes on at all, it comes > > on only sporadically. > > > > Regular and lengthy zazen will definitely open that vision to all the > > hours of the day. Rising up from your cushion will not scare it away. > > In fact, the only thing that can cover it up again is to abandon zazen > > (so don't do that). ;-) > > > > This is not a special state, or a specially-induced state. It is the > > natural state of our vision. It is a part of our full human > > inheritance, which zazen can UNCOVER for us again. I think children > > have it while their age remains in the single digits. I remember it > > well, myself, in my childhood. In fact, I remember it very well. > > > > We can discuss more details about this if you would like. > > > > I would think that zazen would be a blessing for visual artists. (It's > > such a loss that so many of them are never introduced properly to zazen). > > > > BTW, the zendo in Greenwich Village is attended by tons of artists; > > they are very lucky. I think Bonnie is still the Roshi there. > > > > Zazen; zazen. Don't let any iconoclast here or elsewhere tell you it's > > not "needed". I promise you there is "gold" there, Merle. I am a > > Vulcan, and cannot lie. ;-) > > > > YOU be the Judge, Your Honor. > > > > I'm not even talking about the eventual dawning of the samadhi-state. > > That may or may not come, but probably will. We can talk some day > > about the "Great Golden Ocean-Seal Samadhi". But not now. > > > > --Joe > > > > PS These states come *before* Awakening, but they are still there > > afterwards, so don't worry. ;-) > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > years ago when i was 20..i had a golden light experience.. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
