On Jul 10, 2012 7:55 AM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, certainly, especially after awakening.
No! Not especially after Awakening, always already every where, everything is right here. Anything which you think you gained in Awakening is not what i am talking about. i am talking about what is right here. People miss it all the time, but it is not missing in that case, the nervous systems may be distracted by some thoughts or fears or whatever. the belief in those thoughts are what my teacher so helpfully laughs away. but, so the car not starting does a decent job at that also. > > But, after awakening, wholeness or emptiness cannot be hidden: that's what it *means* to be Awake. I never in real life met someone who said they were living non-dually 100% of the time. There are no separate people and nothing permanent, and people get distracted and resume practice and it's fine. > > Before awakening, there are specific practices to cure us. These are called Methods. If they appear to chop things, that is good, because the "wholeness" purportedly seen or imagined by some before awakening is illusion: it is not seen with the proper eye. Chop wood, carry water? or in more live language, load the washer, feed the dog, start the coffee, check email. > > If "things" are really whole, or empty, to you, no amount of chopping will chop anything, and you would not be remarking about it. > > The imagined "wholeness" that so many wallow in is just samsara; Buddha said get out of it, be Awake instead. He taught methods. I wouldn't know > > --Joe > > > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > any attempt to chop life into bits of Chan or > > not Chan will hide this wholeness of life. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
