On 7/10/2012 11:38 AM, Joe wrote:

Well, JMJM, let me make another statement, too; tnx.

Awakening is an event, and it is invariably sudden.


Might as well take a drug. These also yield such events. Meditations side effects are no different. Some appear to yield insight.

I am not suggesting meditation doe not have material benefits. Rather, I am suggesting it does.

It may last.


No beginning or end, no place or time, no one attaining, nothing to attain.

You are describing appearances. These come and go, and can be maintained.

What did you think your teachers were laughing about losing?!

K

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