Mist shrouded river
Sounds of waters yet unseen
Churning into spray
K
PS - This Soto/Rinzai shit is old! Each carries the other's water.
On 7/10/2012 11:49 PM, Bill! wrote:
One of my teachers (or something I read somewhere - I really don't
know which now) nibbled around the edges of this question by
suggesting the difference between Soto and Rinzai Zen Buddhist
teaching methods leading you to kensho (first awakening). The two were
described as:
- the Soto Zen Buddhist approach (shikantaza) is like meandering
around in a light mist for many weeks, months or even years and then
suddenly one day realizing you are soaking wet!
- the Rinzai Zen Buddhist approach (koan study) is like getting
unexpectedly shoved into a river. You rise to the surface gasping for
air and wondering what just happened to you.
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> On 7/10/2012 11:10 AM, Joe wrote:
> >
> > Sudden. It can be prepared for by purification and practice.
> >
>
> The hedge planted around all zen schools.
>
> >
> > It is maintained by continuous practice, which is now different than
> > before awakening.
> >
>
> Maintaining suchness? An easier task cannot be set.
>
> Only ignorance/delusion requires effort to be maintained.
>
> Perhaps I can express this in a more direct/hands on way: How much
> effort is required to pattern the Lacewood?
>
> K
>
