One of my teachers (or something I read somewhere - I really don't know which now) nibbled around the edges of this question by suggesting the difference between Soto and Rinzai Zen Buddhist teaching methods leading you to kensho (first awakening). The two were described as: - the Soto Zen Buddhist approach (shikantaza) is like meandering around in a light mist for many weeks, months or even years and then suddenly one day realizing you are soaking wet! - the Rinzai Zen Buddhist approach (koan study) is like getting unexpectedly shoved into a river. You rise to the surface gasping for air and wondering what just happened to you.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > On 7/10/2012 11:10 AM, Joe wrote: > > > > Sudden. It can be prepared for by purification and practice. > > > > The hedge planted around all zen schools. > > > > > It is maintained by continuous practice, which is now different than > > before awakening. > > > > Maintaining suchness? An easier task cannot be set. > > Only ignorance/delusion requires effort to be maintained. > > Perhaps I can express this in a more direct/hands on way: How much > effort is required to pattern the Lacewood? > > K > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
