[Zen] Re: Chan and zen

ED Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:38:01 -0700

Mike,

Samadhi has numerous meanings.  What do you mean by 'samadhi'?  Joe,
what do you mean by 'samadhi' ?    Do Zen masters ever use the term
'samadhi'?

--ED


 
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sa·ma·dhi
nounâ/sÉËmädÄ"/
samadhis, plural

    1. A state of intense concentration achieved through meditation. In
Hindu yoga this is regarded as the final stage, at which union with the
divine is reached (before or at death)


    * A funerary monument



Web definitions
    * Samadhi (Sanskrit: à¤¸à¤®à¤¾à¤§à¤¿) in Hinduism, Buddhism,
Sikhism and yogic schools is a higher level of concentrated meditation,
or dhyÄna. In the yoga tradition, it is the eighth and final limb
identified in the Yoga SÅ«tras of Patañjali.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi
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j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CDUQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNEHa\
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    * Samadhi is a 1950 Bollywood film directed by Ramesh Saigal. A
box-office success, the film became the highest earning film of 1950,
earning an approximate gross of Rs. 1,35,00,000 and a nett gross of Rs.
75,00,000.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi_(1950_film)
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0_film)&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CDcQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&u\
sg=AFQjCNEaP67pjVVBEkRgIo9XX7Z5lxiBGA>

    * "Samadhi" is a 1972 Hindi film directed by Prakash Mehra. The film
stars Dharmendra in a dual role as father and son, Asha Parekh and Jaya
Bhaduri as the love interests. Music is by R.D. Burman. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi_(1972_film)
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2_film)&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CDkQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&u\
sg=AFQjCNFqFAU--_-vgtgCMWzwb_68z3IU-w>

    * A state of transcendent union supposed to be assumed by a holy man
or yogi at his death; The burial of a holy man before his death in
anticipation of such a state; The highest state of meditation, at which
complete unity is reached
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/samadhi
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=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CDsQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNFl\
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    * A state in which the aspirant is one with the object of his
meditation, the Supreme Spirit pervading the universe, where there is a
feeling of unutterable joy and peace.
www.poweryoga.com/aboutyoga/article.php
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e.php%3Fartid%3D%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%25206&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANo\
qUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CD0QngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNHyRb780JwkyxT2blouf-kJL\
dw9Wg>

    * the final stage of ashtanga yoga in which concentration becomes one
with the object of concentration; supreme union.
www.healthandyoga.com/yogaglossary.html
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.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CD8QngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg\
=AFQjCNHXYeq4E8kx2RcCnoKKDyMLP77Oww>

    * The eighth stage or limb of yoga as defined by Patanjali in his
Yoga Sutras and is the enlightened and ecstatic state of supreme
consciousness and union. ...
www.yogaforbeginners.com/html/glossary01.htm
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sary01.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEEQngkwAQ&q=samadh\
i&usg=AFQjCNGiK9YXMtGSOPxSgykeFP27As2ciw>

    * Concentration; the practice of centering the mind in a single
sensation or preoccupation, usually to the point of jhana.
www.hinduwebsite.com/buddhism/glossary.asp
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sary.asp&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEMQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&\
usg=AFQjCNE08WluL9DgKn88wwkaVHQX_0eFFw>

    * The name in India for spiritual ecstasy. It is a state of complete
trance, induced by means of mystic concentration.
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-glo3.htm
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ey-glo3.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEUQngkwAQ&q=samad\
hi&usg=AFQjCNGFN3FYDkQIOLZLAQJ2HLKdKjeOQA>

    * total yogic integration; ecstatic consciousness
www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/SDLE/Glossary.htm
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ry.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEcQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&us\
g=AFQjCNHeT7w0jFG1wOUpOyE04pfB2uWCfQ>

    * collectedness of the mind through gradual calming of mental
activity.
www.zentexts.org/zen-term.html
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=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEkQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNEs\
rVVNoo_qYi3WTl-DFk6DrWVifg>

    * Samadhi is the eighth step of Patanjali's yoga. One speaks of
samadhi with and without support
oaks.nvg.org/buddord.html
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=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CEsQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNHCZbDP_\
EtS-d_dj5tbX36opd4p2A>

    * Meditative absorption. A state of deep meditation.
www.thebuddhistsociety.org/resources/Glossary.html
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es/Glossary.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CE0QngkwAQ&q=\
samadhi&usg=AFQjCNGGxUoF5h4YvA2ZnHZIT0gv32V00A>

    * goal of yoga, becoming aware of nothing
iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/fall05/levy/terms.html
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vy/terms.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CE8QngkwAQ&q=sam\
adhi&usg=AFQjCNEx3q__SeTLznzIKlMjYI8kP7tlDw>

    * a trance; state of suspended sensation; superconsciousness; perfect
relaxation.
www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rwy/rwy14.htm
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.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFEQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=\
AFQjCNFYklixa3x7Fise1TRUvRiAG97kBg>

    * abstract meditation. the highest and last stage of Yoga. Perfect
absorption of thought into the Supreme Spirit, when one realises. "I and
my Father are one."
www.vivekananda.net/glossary.html
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rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFMQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjC\
NEeM5kOTuLWje87cRLGQ9gxLipjVQ>

    * A transcendental state of awareness in which one experiences the
supreme reality and becomes Selfârealised. This state occurs when
the topmost chakra, sahasrara is activated.
www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/glossary.html
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/glossary.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFUQngkwAQ&q=sa\
madhi&usg=AFQjCNF7ivRAfrGGx2yfh0-BeolfG8EoGA>

    * established mindfulness in meditative concentration, when the mind
experiences a calm, peaceful, unified, and blissful sustained awareness
(technically samÄdhi is synonymous with the four jhÄna, but is
often used in a more general way).
www.ajahnchah.org/book/Glossary_Pali_Words.php
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li_Words.php&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFcQngkwAQ&q=sama\
dhi&usg=AFQjCNGMFuDA2JpqV9yoNtc0eku2VUuznQ>

    * This term has a variety of meanings. In Zen it implies not merely
equilibrium, tranquility, and one-pointedness, but a state of intense
yet effortless concentration, of complete absorption of the mind in
itself, of heightened and expanded awareness. ...
www.windhorsezen.org/blog/
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id%3D252&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFkQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&\
usg=AFQjCNGnAV3uQYSczdsshy3_3Xy1j0jwLg>

    * union with the ecstatic consciousness of the Soul by the full
awakening of the Kundalini Shakti combined with full absorption of the
attention upon the Soul. The term samadhi (small 's') is also used to
refer to the flowing of energy to any focal point of concentration in
Raja Yoga. ...
www.mudrashram.com/glossarypage.html
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ml&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CFsQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AF\
QjCNFdTczyKBPTKcUka1Kc2cmRciP1zg>

    * 'concentration'; lit. 'the (mental) state of being firmly fixed'
(sam+á+Ö há), is the fixing of the mind on a single object.
"One-pointedness of mind (cittass' ekaggatá), Brother Visakha, this
is called concentration" (M. 44). ...
www.urbandharma.org/udharma2/dictionary/bd21.html
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onary/bd21.html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CF0QngkwAQ&q=s\
amadhi&usg=AFQjCNEbv2oPGvRiPBIrrfsKpyBICAX-Iw>

    * Derived from Yoga, this term refers to the transcendence of
personal ego to attain a state of oneness with true reality. A state of
bliss.
www.hipplanet.com/books/atoz/glossary.htm
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ary.htm&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CF8QngkwAQ&q=samadhi&u\
sg=AFQjCNEJt_13jZGtMeVeP6m1bPcgy-kB3w>

    * Union, true meditation, transcendence. David says, "The only
samadhi truly worth dwelling upon is the one that lasts forever."
www.davidspero.org/glossary/index.html
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html&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CGEQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=\
AFQjCNGXR3r0qMsV89rn912mmueIOITLkw>

    * The simple structure or place commemorating dead saints or gurus,
who often yielded their life by simply ceasing the act of breathing.
www.suite101.com/content/glossary-q-to-s-a13066
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q-to-s-a13066&rct=j&sa=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CGMQngkwAQ&q=sam\
adhi&usg=AFQjCNHaFl4XvNjsuEzhXpMFBxCkqahbAw>

    * 1. Fully matured meditation, the last of the eight steps of the
yoga system taught by Patanjali. A perfected devotee of the Supreme Lord
also achieves the same samadhi. 2. The tomb of a pure devotee of the
Lord.
www.krishna.com/glossary-s
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a=X&ei=fp0aUM-ANoqUiQL3-YGABQ&ved=0CGUQngkwAQ&q=samadhi&usg=AFQjCNF-Fa0L\
lQ-5m6HF2K6jTG7c4S00pg>




> --- In [email protected], mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote:
> >
> > ED,
> >
> > As I pointed out in a previous post, Buddha sorted his own problem
out and now so do we. The only thing I would argue with Bill! is that
the Buddha's self-realisation came out of being in samadhi and the
jhanic mind state. This is the path he then taught. If these antecedents
are not required, then why have they been taught for 2,500 years?
> >
> > Mike
[Zen] Re: Chan and zen

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