Prove it Merle. I'm not convinced... Today is freeing Merle from illusion day! :-)
Edgar On Aug 27, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > i speak to my plants...and they listen and respond..merle > > Merle > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 > > From: Glenn Rogers <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 3:50 AM > Subject: [Zen] Re: bone broth > > > I saw a National Geographic program in which scientists hooked up ECG > monitors to plant flowers. They submitted the plants to a series of tests, > including stroking its leaves, talking to it, shouting at it, etc. Their > machines detected no change in electrical impulses--until one of the > scientists tried to cut the plant. As soon as his scissors touched the plant, > there was an intense spike in electrical activity. The program was explicitly > non-outcome oriented, i.e., not forming any conclusions, but it certainly > begged some questions about plant consciousness that piqued my curiosity. > > Glenn > > --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > > > On 8/26/2012 8:20 PM, Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > > One of the Four Noble Truths taught by the Buddha was the reality of > > > ...Suffering. > > > > > > > Of course there are other translations of 'dukkha' - such as > > 'dissatisfaction' - that aren't so easily confused with physical > > pain/body information (which of course can also be seen as a source of > > dissatisfaction when resisted). > > > > > > > > Animals suffer: Plants do not (seem to suffer). > > > > > > > So it appears through human eyes. We cannot know. > > > > > > > > Maybe, some day, plants will be shown to be equally -- however > > > differently -- as sentient as animals. Then, all vegetarians and > > > vegans will be in some trouble. > > > > > > > Does the obvious need to be shown to us? Do the stars cry out as they > > are pulled into the singularity at the galactic core? Could we not > > interpret their increased emissions as such, just as we with an animals > > cries? > > > > > > > > > > I too am a strict omnivore, Glenn. But I have been in/gone through 10 > > > or 12 year periods of being solely vegetarian, from time to time. > > > > > > Things keep changing. ;-) > > > > > > > Yep, I have gone vegan for a spell now and then myself. Not for any > > religious or moral reasons, it just seemed right/felt right at the time. > > Have had to eliminate wheat last year or so. Body speaks clearly enough, > > as its needs change. I don't always listen, or have resources to eat > > optimally. > > > > KG > > > > > > >
